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  1. I too am having problems at the moment. Walter just came up lame in both fronts and is standing like a laminitic., but moreso, he is lifting his heels off the ground to relieve tension. I have determined so far, that it is his ddfts that have been strained. It's very icy here and even though I have taken measures to avoid it, Murphy's Law rules anyway. A couple of winters ago, it was his sacroilliac that he threw out. That was a long term recovery/treatment of 7 months. I'm braced for the long term in recovery also, with tendons involved. (sigh) I also find it very discouraging to think of a vet being incorrect. The vet is my savior. I want him to be my savior. I've had my vet for 35 years, he is my friend/mentor. But in the sacro-illiac case, his advise caused a 3 month delay in diagnosis. His visit amounted to giving me heck for his heels being too short and a brewing abscess, which they were not and no abscess happened. Poor Wally went with his RH in the air 24/7 for two months while he investigated and was stuck on the abscess idea. I left him and called in a chiro and the healing began. Another time, it was his eye. 2 prescriptions later for eye drops, I left him and went to a homeopathic people doctor and his medication starting healing the second I applied it. Thank goodness eyes are universal! Jubal, if there is any chance of founder from anything, I wouldn't even go there. Depends, if your horse is sensitive, it could be traumatic. If there ever was a time to say a flat no to the vet for something, this would be it for me, no hesitation. It has largely been replaced by the ACTH + glucose + leptin test, that will give you the numbers you need without challenging anything. Right now its just a suspicion, so just hang on for awhile and stay observant, see how the coat sheds in spring. In the meantime, I would do the same things people with Cushings/IR horses do for treatment. I don't want to go there, so I treat mine like they already are. Balance the diet and tighten it down in terms of Iron, sugar and starch. ((notice that I said iron first?) Stay on top of the trim and keep an eye on the hoof and move. Mine are not allowed to just have their hunger, they must earn it, whether it be through exercise or having to walk all over the place to find the hay that I spread far and wide. Their apple-a-day gets thrown a 100' and they are made to go fetch them...anything to make them move and earn. Another thought is that too high protein will overwork the kidneys also.
  2. Oh, I'm around. Funny how life will catch you up and carry you away. I keep checking in. I look at it, like we are all smarter these days and that's a good thing. I also wish to thank you all for the appreciation, it's the best Christmas present ever! Really it is! There are certainly many peers around and I'm glad that I was able to help with what I can. I've been dissed so many times in my travels, but I don't care. I'm here for the horse. Here, still, I am home. Actually, it seems that a lot of the forums are lean these days, that everyone has turned to Facebook, or something. That they may have found more agreeable niches in a smaller gathering. I believe Equisearch has pulled their forum altogether. The Chronicle is lively and well informed, but they do things differently and think differently, so I've decided to leave them alone, but I do go there to read and sometimes get frustrated. So, since we've created a kind of drop-in here, tell me, what's up with life these days? How are the hooves doing? I've been busy lately, as Grandchildren are being born right, left and center and I find myself struggling to keep up with the "new occasions" that have doubled and am learning to become a responsible Grandparent as well. As for my hooves, lol! We're battling very icy conditions coating the whole hill that is my barn and barnyard. It is too large an area to deal with, so I must avoid it. As long as I've got an escape route, I'm good. Keeping their space enlarged and continuing to move, is the challenge. We've been going for walks (1 mile) down the driveway to stay loose and I've been wishing they made YaxTrax for horses, cause they certainly are a blessing to me. I'm tempted to take mine off and put them on a hoof as an experiment. They're completely stretchy, lol! The hay is grass hay, but is tending to loosen them up somewhat, so I doubled the yeast and things are better. Other than that, we're lazing in the sun and thinking about Missyclare. I have her pic on my start-up page and I don't think I'll ever take her off, no matter how many Grandchildren are born. I'll save the walls for that, lol! Let's see, who else was around then....Ared Horse and Lyra, Cowgirl Up and Tubby, Versace, who was a long story, Flying Stars and Gunner, who I imagine is not so little anymore, J Mock, Lassie Lu, One Grey Horse and Moose, Ricky Sweet Smoke, Smiley, who is still around and very helpful, Rosie, This Is It, and ofcourse, special mention to Hero and Godsgirl, who we tried valiantly to save a horse with cancer and we both went thru a special kind of he**. Life goes on....just trying to make things the best they can be while we're around....
  3. Austrailia has just banned the use of whips in training and racing with harness horses. Norway had banned it earlier, but theirs came down from the government, triggered by welfare legislation. In Australia the order came down from the national racing authority itself. No more, will tired horses be whipped in the name of sport.
  4. Looks like a pretty decent trim. The sole has been obeyed and that's the approach these hooves need. Can't tell about the heels, need a heel shot. I'm just glad that he's not collapsing any more. If he's sore, then you need boots with pads. He'll thank you.
  5. Regardless, I think the balance is improving in the new growth department. Wouldn't you say that the buckled side is improving? The front of your horse tells it all. Turns in bone have the legs coming in narrow under the body to compensate. The RF is worse and you can see it in how the foot is delivered to the ground in the heel shot. The solar shot shows bruising on the whole inside. He still has some healing to do and is probably why he's sore. Looks like an abscess brewing on the LF toe quarter as well. I agree with Trinity and look forward to you doing the trimming yourself. I don't agree on the Bute in order to ride. It will make him careless, unable to place his feet independently, add the weight of the rider, not protect him from further abscesses or further irritation from the bruising and Bute may address inflamation but actually impedes healing and will produce ulcers in a week. Give him time to heal and let him be careful. If this were my horse, I'd have him on Move-Ease from mybesthorse.com. and fight the inflamation without the side effects of Bute. I have used it on several horses for different reasons and every time its raised my eyebrows. I threw my Bute in the garbage and have never looked back. The better he heals now, the better he'll be able to handle barefoot when the shoes comes off. Frogs are puny and need to be strengthened to be ready as well. That frog is the stabilizer between those heels being delivered to the ground the way they are and back of the hoof strength is very important. I can't draw much lines on these. But another problem is flare forward and can best be addressed barefoot. It's slow to remediate and you need to stay on top of the trim to correct it.
  6. When hunting season starts, I would pull the shoes and start rehabbing. You're right about the farrier. Are there any barefoot trimmers in the area? Still need better pics. Even without a solar shot, I get the feeling that P3 is down a bit on its nose. This means, that with every step, P3 descends on the inside of thin sole creating inflammation that changes bone. I'm talking about the area around the frog apex and the whole interior of the sole forward from there. The shoe, around the rim does nothing to protect that bone in the middle of the hoof. It descends down thru the shoe to meet the ground. Padding must be under that descending bone, make sense? Hoof boots are needed, along with a balanced trim and a serious fight against thrush. The central sulcis should not be a crack that runs thru the frog on down thru the heels and heel bulbs, but should be nothing more than a mere thumbprint depression on top of the frog and no crack at all. The war is not won on thrush until it looks like this. The hoof cannot develop and get stronger when thrush is eating it away at the same time. This thrush is bad enough to cause lameness as well and is part of the problem. The shoe will encourage the heels to contract and fold in on itself like an accordion and trap and deepen thrush in that central sulcis crack. If you don't get clean right down to the bottom of that crack, it will continue to eat deeper while you think everything is fine on the surface....toothbrushes, Q-Tips...whatever it takes. So, when hunting season comes, I would pull the shoes, get a balanced trim, get booted and comfortable and move to work that trim and develop a healthier hoof. Whoever comes, just keep telling them that you want a balanced trim and fight the war on thrush.
  7. Pictures would be great. A shoe won't prevent an abscess and it depends on where that abscess is, that will tell why and how it formed....like overgrown bars, frog out of work, thrush, diet imbalance, trim imbalance, too much alfalfa, IR or Cushings, too much or too little selenium, too much sugar, starch and iron. Some things on the hoof can be weak and let the ground hurt it. Some things can be prominent and meet the ground head on for a double whammy. Somethings are internal and metabolic and they are all related. You need good balanced nutrition to grow a strong hoof. You need to fight thrush because nothing can develop and strengthen when thrush is eating the hoof away at the same time. You need a good balanced trim and maintain it. You need to move to work that trim and develop strength. 4" deep gravel, either pea gravel or crushed limestone...around the water trough, in gateways, run-in, preferred pathways, etc. The thrush will be better managed, the self trimming will be better managed and the development fantastic. When a hoof does its homework on rocks, it becomes rock crushing which means it crushes rocks instead of the other way around. The shoes would have to come off in order to achieve this, but if you did, then you could hang the shoe up above the barn door and smile at it when you pass. Shoes and imbalance and contracted heels, and elongated breakover = thin soles, which is an abscess waiting to happen. Quarters jamming up, is a hoof that is already jammed up by his descending weight, never mind the ground. It's biotin that takes months to show up in new stronger growth coming down from the coronary band. It's copper and zinc without iron, that strengthens the hoof AT the ground. You'll see the effects of copper are a lot faster than biotin. Copper strengthens the wall, the water line and the cross connections that give the hoof its flexible strength and that's what you want on those rocks. Between the copper and the gravel, thrush doesn't have a chance. Copper will also give him his original coat color, never to fade in the sun again. Minerals like California Trace, fed, to make sure they get them. The blocks are mere bonus and will never meet their needs alone. Yes, I do suspect the rocks, but also hooves that can't handle them and yes, they can. I would keep them off the hill until their feet are stronger and abscesses resolved. It doesn't sound like they are missing much out there and if the grass is sparce, then what else is growing? I'd be going for a walk out there. Seed heads are like sugar pills, weeds are higher in sugar, stressed grass is higher in sugar, so are any areas of lush growth. I'd start with the gravel, though and if the sore foot had to be booted for a bit, so be it, let the other three feet get started in the meantime. It is a journey, and best for you to decide when to take it, but you'll never look back. Oh, and as for road work, if you can, head for the middle, where the crown is free of rocks. Asphalt is magic also. At this point, the gravel shoulder would just be more insult. A hoof has to develop its toughness in degrees and stones are graduation. It's then, that you have a rock crushing hoof. Hope this helps....
  8. How infection spreads in the bloodstream. It's like white water rafting, only the ride is too wild and the bacteria have specific places to go and can't afford to be simply washed away, so they creep down the side walls, bonding to cells for hold, breaking them and then rebonding again. Like going hand over hand down a ladder. I am reminded of two things. One is because I'm a Trekkie and imagined the Zindi crawling forward on the ceiling and walls of Enterprise, lol! and that this is the same way that a part of hoof growth slides down from the coronary band. What a mimic this bacteria is! Designed just for you.
  9. A horse with complex problems and sensitivity because of those problems, I think the boot would definitely help, but its not a therapeutic boot at all. Pads are needed in the boots. This boot is simple protection and not promoting a better foot.
  10. Austrian. A high degree of technology behind it. There's nothing that says how the velcro-type pad is attached to the hoof wall. I'm thinking glue and have no doubts of its hold...a good thing, but possibly a bad thing too. I definitely see the area that the pad touches as hoof wall immediately blocked from breathing and replaced with something toxic. I wonder if when the hoof is not balanced or transitioned, that the torque would transfer to those clips, effectively pulling down on the velcro, the pad and the hoof wall. Would it encourage a quarter to fill in and jam up? (it is in the pic and while we're at it, what's with the prominent toe quarter shape? Correct thinking but old school farrier) Would it enhance bad growth from the "jam and splat" mechanism of a medial/lateral imbalance? Yes, it would be hard to stay on top of the trim, especially taking flare off the top. I see the cover getting ripped off out in the field and lost and spending an hour trying to clean out the velcro with a pin anyway, lol. If this doesn't happen, then I imagine the hoof taking the brunt instead. It feels like I've turned the horse out into the field and forgot to take his halter off. I think this would work best on a transitioned/balanced hoof, which I have, but then they are also rock crushing hooves, so I don't need boots. It will be entering Kick Starter soon, so hopefully will be more information, trials and opinions in the future.
  11. Opinions? Definitely watch the video for full understanding. http://horserunners.com/
  12. Cracks don't heal. They have to grow out. The trick is to keep the torque off it, so that it can grow out, rather than tear upward in the opposite direction. Not getting the onus off that crack will keep the crack maintained or getting worse. Every step matters and you can either promote concavity and a better hoof, or promote pathological growth....the barefoot trim is for the horse, the trim under the shoe is for the shoe. Your horse needs a balanced barefoot trim if he's going to go bare anyway. You may have to call in a trimmer, if the farrier cannot do this. It is the crack at the ground that when the hoof rolls over it, puts tension on it all the way up. A bevel takes the crack right off the ground and keeps it quiet, while it grows out...as long as its maintained, or the torque is right back on again. A shoe also takes the crack off the ground, but then its also sitting on the shoe. Without pics, I can't tell what the situation is with his feet, or the work your farrier has done. I see this as a self trimming exercise by the horse, with a bit of Murphy's Law thrown in. If the wall is even with the sole, then its all good. That's exactly where it wants to be. It hasn't torn into soft tissue. He shouldn't be lame, if this is the case. If he's sensitive, I'd put boots on him and keep going. The goal is to get a good trim, then move to work that trim. If he's off of shoes, don't let it slow you down, get comfortable and move, fight thrush and make good use of this time without shoes. You may not need them again. He's older, so the transition will probably be slower and comfort should be more prominent on your sleeve. As for the diet, I'm going to have to research all these products to see what you are feeding in total. I suspect that his system may be fairly junked up. Sorry, but I'll take a look. At 19, the risk for developing Cushings runs higher, so diet should be low in iron, starch and sugar. What he requires in order to meet these iron/sugar/starch demands is a grass hay only diet. Sugar and starch added together to be a strict 10%. Treat him like he already is IR and you won't go there. You don't want to go there. What hay are you feeding? Is he a hard keeper, bad teeth, are you showing? What's his work schedule like? What are the ground conditions like? Cushings and IR related problems affect the white line in the feet. Cracks and broken off shoes are not necessarily related. If his weight is good, and he's not laminitic, then no need for the blood test, or even xrays, I'm thinking. If the crack was bad, the farrier would have done more than slap a shoe on it....I hope....need pics.
  13. Oh Dear! Geez! When it rains, it pours! I'm sorry to hear about your wrist. I have never broken a bone before. I can only imagine how much it hurts. It does not matter who trims, as long as you are advocating. All you need is your voice for that. When he is done, pick up the hoof with your one good hand, let it hang and see the frog pointing at 12 o'clock and the sides in your peripheral vision are level to each other. The clinch is to see that the wall is the same height about the sole on both sides and the coronary band should run straight. make him come back in 4 weeks. Make an appt and carve out your time with him. If there is any tweaking to do afterwards, yourdaughter can take those rasp strokes with your instructions, just like you did the hinds. You need more lines, let me know. Best wishes!
  14. You may be able to trim while he is down. I would ice anyway, because its a non-toxic pain killer. Inflammation causes damage and ice minimalizes that damage at the same time. Good luck.
  15. Would Bute help. Also, epsom salt soaks will help lower sensitivity in 5 minutes. Keep the pads handy. If you can get enough air time to go after the high side and clear the quarters a bit, get those heels level. it will help to make him more comfortable. If its only 1 swipe of the rasp at a time, then so be it. I have been there. The up and down is movement, just go with it and see if you can get a rhythm going. Do what you can and not what you cannot. Where is he spending his days. Does he want to move around at all by himself. I think he needs to be on some pain killers. He should be in pain enough to be careful and out of pain enough not to be miserable with it. If you feel any bounding pulse, go to ice. If he has bruising in the white line, then its important that there be a well placed active bevel that removes torque from it. That is more important than shortening the toe at the this point. Can you post some new pics.