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#1 Itchysmom

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:46 PM

I was thinking today...I know scary thing! Anyway I was wondering where the donkey got the name of A** or Jack A**?

Now a Morgan got it's name from Justin Morgan. A QH got iot's name from runnig a quarter mile. An Arab got it's name from coming from Arabia. But who decided that a donkey should have a name like A**? I mean it's even in the bible! And where did Jack come from?

Makes ya wonder [Confused]

#2 Lash Man and Al Girl

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:49 PM

Maybe it was Jack's ***?

Not sure.... way to think!

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:51 PM

I always thought the modern Donkey got the name from the wild ***** of Asia since they have a genetic link? Jack *** is from male donkeys since they are called Jacks? But then again that is probably wrong LOL.

Good question I want to know the answer LOL

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:53 PM

[Question] hmm I have NO CLUE! but that is a good question!

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:56 PM

It's from the Latin, asinus. In the binomial nominclature, the species is Equus asinus (the genus is that of horses, the equine, the species name is asinus). Hope that helps.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:57 PM

yeah actually it does! Thanks! lol why didn't I think of scientific names?! lol

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:58 PM

The world's most expensive dictionary pretty much said "donkey."

*sigh* off to google.

You KNOW I can't sleep now until I find out!

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:02 PM

"How did the word jack*** come to describe someone behaving in a negative or idiotic manner?

First we have to tell you how jack*** came to describe what we today call a donkey. *** is a very old word, of even much older roots. In late Old English it was assa, thought to have come from one of the Celtic languages (Old Irish has asal). Many other Indo-European languages had versions of the word which derived from Latin asinus, but the record seems to indicate that the Celtic version(s) lent themselves not only to Old English, but to Teutonic and Slavonic as well. From this etymologists speculate that the Celtic form has as its ultimate roots a Sumerian or Semitic word, which might explain also where the Greek form onos (source of English onager) came from. Hebrew has the word athon "***".

To be continued!!! I HATE my 'puter!

[ 10-10-2006, 09:07 PM: Message edited by: phurgus ]

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:06 PM

AH! When all esle fails try science [Big Grin]

I was kinda hoping for a neat little story [Wink]

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:07 PM

...continued

Jack, used to identify the male form of a species, goes back to at least the late 16th or early 17th century. In the case of the ***, Jenny was used to refer to mares. There was a feminine form of *** in Old English, assen (formed like the feminine form of fox, vixen), but Jack and Jenny replaced the need for a feminine form.

jack*** used to describe a "fool" comes from the age-old association of clumsiness and unintelligence with ***** (that's what happens when you've been domesticated for millenia!); this goes back at least to the ancient Greeks and was perpetuated in the Bible. The purely metaphorical use, calling a man an ***, arose in the 17th century.

Also, relatives of *** (and Irish asal) may be found in the German ezel and Dutch esel. It is from this latter word that we derive easel, the wooden *** which carries an artist's canvas. "

Is what I found on this site: http://www.takeourword.com/Issue059.html#Spotlight

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by phurgus:
.........and was perpetuated in the Bible.

Oh, now I get it! In the biblical story of Balaam, a prophet who was hired to curse the Israelites, but instead was commanded by God to bless them instead.... that was just God talkin' out his ***! [ROTFL]

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:56 PM

ooooppssss!!! [Eek!]

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 09:41 PM

The place where ***** roamed: biblical Assyria?

Failing that, the scientific name sufices for me...