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#1 WBduet

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:00 AM

I've talked to a few people who just hate Purina (don't they own Nutrena? LOL). I have yet to run into someone who hates Nutrena's projects. So, anyone want to enlighten me? Why is Purina deemed 'bad' by many people? I feed my horses Purina and I like it a lot....
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:52 AM

I dont have a problem with Purina except its cost. I used to feed Strategy and Ultium. Loved it. Unfortunatly I cant afford it any longer. 16 and 20 bucks a bag is just too much. I have been shopping aroudn for a less costly alternative.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:59 AM

No Nutrena is not owned by Purina. I use Neutrena now instead of Purina because Purina killed my 6 yo Bull dog with the melamine in the dog food.

I know that's an unreasonable bias, blah blah blah but, I have alot of animosity after they tried to minimize their responsibility. I had to fight to get them to pay attention. I had a perfectly healthy and loving, well-trianed dog and feeding her purina put her in misery. Kidney failure and finally we had to put her down. I spent thousands at the vet having her diagnosed and having her kidneys flushed with IV fluids for 5 days straight two times. Her kidneys were damaged beyond repair and survivability.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:04 AM

Trinity, Ultium is still around $20 a bag for you? It's $15 a bag here. Gone down quite a bit thankfully.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:54 AM

Yep last time I bought some was about 3 weeks ago with a coupon I had. Still right at 20 bucks...I wish it was 15, I would feed it to to of my horses...I love that stuff.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 09:56 AM

I like both...love Safechoice and love Ultium. Everyone has a preference on horse feed...it turns into a pretty interesting discussion! Unfortunately, every feed supplier I have bought Safechoice from hates dealing with Nutrena and ultimately stops carrying it, so it was back to Sr for that horse.

I recently switched the dogs to Pro Plan Sensitive skin and stomach...for some reason, that formula looks a lot better then the other pro-plan, no corn, by-products etc. I couldn't afford the $50 a bag stuff anymore for my allergy prone dog and now he has done better on this then anything else.

It is all opinion and I am an avid label reader. Someone tried to talk me into a more pricey "organic" food and the second ingredient was corn-gluten meal! So read, do what is best for your animals and your situation.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:30 PM

I think it really depends on the feed itself. I really love Safechoice. But I had to stop buying it because I can't afford to drive 23miles one way and pay $4 more per bag.
I know that the feed store had a lot of problems with delivery from Nutrena before I switched too.

So now I am feeding Strategy and my horse is doing well on it. Have my other horse on the Purina Wellsolve L/S and he is looking good and doing well on it too.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:33 PM

I feed Strategy and my horses love it. $13.50 per bag here.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:39 PM

I feed Purina products.

I use Ultium on my 6 year old hard keeper (she is an eventer and needs the extra energy, she's also HUGE!) and Equine Senior on my 16 year old retiree and my 5 year old rescue (he seems to do better on the senior products because of his nutritional imbalance). I used to feed the rescue the Omolene 200, which is also made by Purina. loved it.

For the 6 year old WB mare ( the hard keeper ), I use the supplement Amplify. It has worked WONDERS on her weight and coat. It's a Purina suppliment under the Nature's Essentials branch of Purina
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:07 PM

Strategy is what I have fed for years. No problems. I think Purina got a lot of bad press - not sure why, but many people are adamant against them. I love Strategy. All my horses look well and perform well on it.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:08 PM

I am not sure where the bad press came from either...we have used Purina products for years and I really like them.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:35 PM

I feed gunner Hi Fat Hi Fibre from Purina, never had any problems with it?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:43 PM

i dislike Purina products, to me the qaulity doesn't seem up to par with others. yes, even the dog food.

my horse was on safechoice and I didn't like it AT ALL! my horse started to look unthrifty after only going through 1 bag.




although i hear a lot of people like Ultium. never tried it so i can't tell you about it,

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:12 PM

Um, SafeChoice is a Nutrena product, not Purina.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:20 PM

my horse is on nutrena compete and I really like it. When I was at the barn reps from purina came to talk to bo when I was there and she was considering it, but after thorough consideration she stuck to nutrena the customer service is awesome. I f we need a few bags theyll deliver the same day before the full load comes. Iv had good results with it too.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 06:07 PM

Purina has had issues with both canine and equine feeds, their lack of a clean area has caused issues with certain organisms. I used to use them exclusively but with all the recalls I doubt I ever will again...Besides....I love Nutrena I have used both Safe Choice and Light Balance with success.
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 06:20 PM

I have a bias against Purnia because friends of mine almost lost two horses because of contaminated feed. Although both horses lived it caused permanent respiratory damage and shortened their lives.

My friends ended up mixing their own grain and grew quite the business, they only did horse feed and eventually ended up selling out to a local feed mill. I like knowing that the grain I'm feeding is mixed separately from other livestock feeds.
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:25 PM

Feed Safechoice to my two for 8 months. Their feet went crappy, they didn't shed out well and I found their demeanour went south. Put them back on Proform which is a Co-Op step formula. Never should of changed, but I was swayed by their sales pitch.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:34 PM

my TB gelding was on Safe Choice at his previous owners and for about a month with me...then i switched him to Triple Crown Complete and some rice bran....don't know how his pevious owner kept weight on him.

my other three are on Nutrena now...Lite balance for air fern and Vitaity perform 14% for the other 2. but here in a couple weeks all three will be switched Enrich 32...which is one of Purina's ration balancers...if any of them seem to need anything extra to keep them looking good i'll add some soaked beet pulp and alf pellets.

the Nutrena has really done nothing for my horses...it gives them something to eat but that seems to be it i don't see any changes wether they would be good or bad changes. I remember when i fed Omolene 200 a couple years ago within a week and a half of being on it my horses(only had 2 then) had super shiny and smooth/soft coats and i wasn't feeding them very much of it either


i have always got good looking and healthy horses on Purina..just left them cause of a the recalls and will only use the Enrich 32, Ultium, and maybe the Amplify...am not willing to go to their other feeds
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:59 PM

I like Strategy and Equine Senior was the only feed my first horse would eat. Our new old guy is getting Senior for now, but I need to do some research and compare. I'll stick with Strategy for the others though.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 07:29 PM

I have tried Purina Ultium as well as Strategy. As a matter of fact, I own a boarding facility and switched all the horses to the Strategy for a study I did for Purina. I promptly switched back to what I have fed for many moons now and will not switch again. It is well documented that Purina has had problems with contaminated feed and dog food. I will not support a manufacturer who does not seem to care about the animals their feed goes into. The Ultium is terribly expensive, even now as well as being loaded with corn, not an option for my horses. With the exception of one 38 yo mare, the entire barn gets Tribute Kalm Ultra, a direct competitor to the Ultium. It is a 12% fat, 12% protein feed with NO corn. The easy keepers get 1/2 lb twice a day and my hardest keeper, a SB, gets 3 lbs twice a day. It costs $15.30/bag but you feed less than most feeds due to the fat content. I had to feed twice the amount of Strategy compared to the Kalm Ultra. Now tell me, what kind of savings is that!?! Tribute Feeds are formulated by the same Dr. who formulated several Buckeye feeds. Here is a link to their full product line. I highly recommend these productsTribute Equine Nutrition.
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:30 PM

I was looking at the Kalm Ultra and the other Tribute stuff as it is getting pretty popular around here. I am going to stay with the Ultium, the two on it have done amazing. My mom's horses get the Kalm and EZ and I really like it. My old guy wouldn't touch it. So, back to Sr for him. I was actually talking to my feed guy this morning about the Tribute options for him...my trainer got a bag of their Sr and there is no way my guy will touch it, it was a bit strange. I was looking at the maturity pellets, but it figure it will taste the same to him as the Kalm and EZ he wouldn't eat...have you tried any of their other products??
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:42 PM

I have used both Purina and Nutrena. Purina is really expensive. I did use Omelene for awhile for my TB, when I owned him. It did really well for him. I did use Nutrena SafeChoice and that was about 14 dollars a bag in my area. I did like it. I now use Southern States food. I love Legends, but have switched to multistock sweetfeed 12% for my horse, it runs nine dollars a bag.
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 07:22 AM

I've always fed Purina, and I have never had a problem with it. My horses get Ultium, and yes it is pricey but it is so worth it. They have energy to last and it dosn't make them hot. There overall body condition looks great.

I used to feed Nutrena Triumph sweet and it did nothing for the horses except fill there bellies.
Everyone has a different opinion on what brand they like and good reasons behind it. Some horses too, prefer one brand over the other.

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Although, I wish the feed dealers near me would carry Triple Crown. I believe their Legends feed is almost exact with Ultium and a lot less money...

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 02:42 PM

I tried Purina after getting some coupons for it. Will never buy it again. I stick to buckeye feeds since my mare does so well on them with virtually no issues besides wanting more flirt.gif

I have never tried Nutrena-can't get it, nor Triple Crown- can't get it either, So I can't comment on those since I haven't tried them
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE (cowgurlxxxx @ Jan 5 2009, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've always fed Purina, and I have never had a problem with it. My horses get Ultium, and yes it is pricey but it is so worth it. They have energy to last and it dosn't make them hot. There overall body condition looks great.

I used to feed Nutrena Triumph sweet and it did nothing for the horses except fill there bellies.
Everyone has a different opinion on what brand they like and good reasons behind it. Some horses too, prefer one brand over the other.

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Although, I wish the feed dealers near me would carry Triple Crown. I believe their Legends feed is almost exact with Ultium and a lot less money...



I was just on the Triple Crown website and the Legends does look very similar...is it cheaper? I thought TC was more?
I LOVE Ultium as well and think it is worth the money. The two I feed it to do amazing.
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:51 PM

The more I read, the more confused I get! Sigh........I am thinking of putting my Mustang on Purina WellSolve W/C (weight control).....I just have to get some weight off her!

So some say Purina has issues with contamination? I am not familiar with Nutrena....

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:39 PM

We (my family) have used Purina feeds, various varieties, for over 20 years and have never had any problems with them.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 11:32 AM

I used to use be a die hard purina lover. However, I've really shifted because I just don't think the quality has been the same over the past few years. Then there was the recall in the southeast a year or so ago... But that can happen with any food, human or animal.

I've been using ACCO feeds Safe N Sound. Then I moved in early 08, and no one near me sells that. So I switched to Nutrena Safe Starch. They've been getting blue stem hay 2 flakes twice daily along with pasture. The pasture has finally reached it's winter grazing limit, so I put a coastal round bale out about a week ago. So far so good. I have an 8 month old filly and a 15 year old gelding. I like the safe starch because it can be fed to all classes of horses and I don't have to get 2 kinds of feed. The filly is getting 5-6 lbs feed per day split into 2 feedings and the gelding is getting 2-3 lbs per day split into two feedings. It hasn't been terribly cold here, we're 20 miles north of Galveston. On extremely windy, cold and wet evenings, I was adding a few alfalfa cubes. Both of them are in great condition, and their feet are awesome. The filly is a perfect body condition score of 5, the gelding unfortunately is more like a 6-7. He's always been an extremely easy keeper. A vet friend of mine came by for a little while yesterday and said, "Wow, that's certainly a case of undernourished horses" and winked at me. My next door neighbors call my gelding the "Well loved" horse.

I've used Purina dog feeds for years. My great pyrenees turned 10 this year and she seems to be having trouble keeping weight on and also she has been having terrible skin problems. She's also had ear infections that have been resistant to everything under the sun. Now, that's probably alot of old age and not alot to do with Purina, but I switched her 2 weeks ago to the Nutrena Loyall dog food. In two weeks there is a huge difference in her. Her ear infections and skin have gotten better, and she seems alot more vibrant than she did.

I think that everyone has their feed preference, but not all animals will react the same to each type or brand of feed. So, go with what works, that's my philosophy!

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:59 AM

Thanks for the info Peach. I'm still in the exploring phase you might say. My barn owner/property owner/ and former owner of my horse, is now starting to feed her at my request. (What I wanted her to have)

I weighed out 1/2 pound of the Purina and she is getting 1 measured, weighed pound of her AussieLogic. I spoke to Purina directly. I am to blend the 2 kinds for about 10 days or so and gradually give more Purina than the other. That won't be a problem because I'm gonna run out of the AussieLogic. And so far so good. No signs of digestibility problems. Next week, I'll have Mr. G. increase the Purina. I know that they have to have some body weight in the winter to maintain themselves.

And I've seen other horses lately that have hay bellies as well. But I just want her to be healthy and my vet is gonna wring my neck for letting her get too fluffy. So I've got about 2 months to try to get some weight off her.

Her Cresty necks bothers me the most. If this doesns't work, then i am not clear what I will do. Some say to not grain at all. I'm kinda funny about that...I want her to have some for the vitamins and minerals that is in it. So I'll give the Purina a try for a bit.

So you are above Galveston??? How cool! I was born down around Laredo. I hate it here! I love it down where you are.


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Mustangs Rule!!!