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> Bad Separation, I'm Pretty Worried, Lyra is sound in boots, but look at the FR hoof
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post Jul 19 2009, 01:33 AM
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After the May photo of Lyra running so happily, things went well for a few weeks. Then she started favoring her right front hoof. Around June 15th, she was not weight bearing. Seemed to be an abscess and I treated it like one - confinement and daily soaks. Never burst. In a week she was much better and able to return to the pasture. She has been sound in the pasture for all of July. As of today she was just a whisper off on hard gravel, and totally sound in her new Epics.

So what is worrying me? Look at the major separation in her front right hoof. This is been something I've been battling since I got her. Thought we had it beat last November but it returned, was visible in April.

I have been beveling the edge of the separated outer hoof wall, which may have actually contributed to the problem as the lateral hoof wall is inside the vertical and the balance of this hoof as been a nightmare (remember the "Frankenhoof"?) http://forums.horsecity.com/index.php showtopic=47034643&hl=

The separation is working towards the hoof platform which seems to be collapsing. I wish we had an experienced and competent trimmer in our area, but we don't. About now I'd be calling in the calvary. This forum is my calvary.

The photos are all from today. I only soaked and cleaned the hoof. I did not touch it with a rasp. The last photo is from April for history.




July 18, front right hoof, solar


July 18, 2009 front right


July 18, 2009 front right


July 18, 2009 front right


April 19th, front right hoof, solar


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post Jul 19 2009, 08:26 AM
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Its the heel balance. There's a twist in her step and the frog is showing it. The red line is frog centered and pointing directly at 12 o'clock at the toe. The green line shows what the frog is really doing. (ofcourse the bone in the hoof is not broken in the middle, but the frog is flexible and showing the twist in her step) The front half of the frog has got the right idea (lines parallel), but the back half is being dictated to by the heel balance of a higher heel on the right side (jamming up) and a high inside. The inside heel lands first and the brunt stays on the inside of the hoof. The outside is splatting, its just that the trim has not allowed the outside heel to splat as well, (heel is not flared) but the outside quarter is getting splatted, hence the separation. Usually, the higher heel is more pulled forward than the lower one, the pull being stronger than the toe, but your trimming has started to correct it, so seeing that is a bit more complicated, along with drawing these lines to try to show you. As it is right now, the inside heel is higher and jamming, the outside heel is lower and pulled more forward as shown in the 2nd pic. The inside jammed heel has been made to follow the sole plane, the outside heel is not. You can't lower the outside heel, or you make the inside even higher in comparison, but you can tweak the angle on that platform just a hair to agree with the sole plane more without lowering it.
As for the heel shots, I've ignored the wall on the outside of the separation as it is useless and not supporting the horse. You've got new growth coming in tight (thanks to the bevel) The green lines on the heel shots show how taking the wall down to live sole on that side will correct the medial/lateral balance. Its not much, but should help. Its the way she moves. She's normal. Even though she has a leg placed on each side of her chest, she walks a tight rope when she places her feet down. (walk her down the road and walk backwards in front of her and see it) This automatically jams up the inside. Which does get higher and starts the jam and splat. The hoof has grown support, a high inside that she has asked for by the way she uses it, but the hoof is not quite happy about this. This jam and splat has contorted things and has the frog groove higher on the inside than the outside, frog pointing towards the higher side and leaving 12 o'clock and the separation from the splat showing. It could be that you've had this jam and splat fairly corrected, but it persists because of the way she uses it. It will always be pushing this scenario and you must always be aware of it. It's just harder to see now that the trim has things fairly well in hand and its not screaming so loud at you, but its still there in a miniscule way and the unbalance that it causes has the same twisting effect on the inner structures. This is why I say that the heel balance is so critical and how it starts off a slew of related contortions on the hoof...and how unbalanced heels alone can cause discomfort.
So, if you breathe on the outside heel platform and change the angle to bring the landing back a hair and bring the inside heel and wall down as shown, this will help to get things flying straight in the hoof again.
It's the same old jam and splat, just harder to see, not as severe, but the twist going on, on the inner structures and discomfort from it none the less.
Hope this helps...

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post Jul 19 2009, 08:30 AM
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wow. I am very interested in what the experts tell you.

is this separation starting on the other side of the hoof also?


ahhh... Missy posted right before me!
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post Jul 20 2009, 12:38 AM
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Missyclare, thank you for your fast, fast response. As always it was incredibly helpful and hopeful. Today I did a trim applying your suggestions, to the best of my ability. I was trying to be very careful not to make her sore in the heels. First, a personal thank you from Lyra:















The picture above was taken about five minutes before the following picture. Is it my imagination or do the heel bulbs in the following picture appear more equal?





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post Jul 20 2009, 07:01 AM
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Looks good! It's not balanced with the other side quite yet, but you can address it in the next trim again and so forth until it is.
Actually, now that I'm looking at these shots, I see that she is flared forward with an underrun heel, so that paragraph about not lowering the heels and toes at the same time does pertain to you.
It looks like you have lowered the heels somewhat, but you have good concavity as well. For the next few weeks, I'd check the hoof for this high side, only tweaking the higher heel to bring it into balance with the lower one and concentrate on keeping the bevel maintained to address the flare forward. You've got a nice tight white line now, which means you won't be able to set the leading edge of your bevel any deeper. It's just right, right now, though I'd like to see it more of a 45, rather than a 90. The new growth is coming in nice and tight and is halfway down the hoof. Keep the patience and soon it will be gone. flirt.gif


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post Jul 20 2009, 09:52 AM
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Good job girlie. notworthy.gif


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post Jul 20 2009, 10:15 AM
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post Jul 20 2009, 10:20 AM
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Whew! Thanks everyone and special gratitude to missyclare. I'm headed to Washington State for a week. Just hate to leave my dogs and horses, wish they could fly with me. Will update when I get home.
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