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#1 Zanit

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:24 PM

So, my attempt to try some confo shots. Let me know if they are suitable or not, if not then I will try again. A little about him, he is a 10- year old gelding that has had little done to him, but he is willing and has a kind disposition. Thus, the reason I am trying my hand at giving him a career as a all around family horse. There is no specific discipline I want to use him in, but what i have done in the past is extreme trail horse competitions, carried a flag in the rodeo and competed in drill.









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Edited by Zanit, 17 October 2010 - 08:33 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 10:39 AM

I am not fit for a critique, but I just wanted to say he looks like a really nice horse; very sturdy and substantial with a sweet eye! He looks like the kind that would be willing to go all day without a complaint, and that your wish list would be very feasible =) good find!!

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 02:07 PM

Starting from the face:

This boy has a decent head/might appear to be a little coarse with a thick throat latch which may cause some problems with collection (think of trying to look down with a double chin). His neck appears thick but ties nicely into his chest. He has an extremely wide chest, causing his legs to stand far apart in the front end. You may experience some trouble with specific running events such as barrel racing -he may try to run wider around the barrel because of balence-. His top line is decent, it appears he is "down hill". He might show some difficulty with getting under himself. He has a really nice hip that matches his shoulder..it's very sloped .. "goose rump"..this boy has some power in there. He's flat-kneed, a decent length to his pasterns, deep hocked, and thick boned..He sure looks sturdy. I'm in love with his heart shaped butt!

The only influential horses I can see in his papers are Tomichi and Leo (most likely where that hip comes from!).

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:49 PM

StopDropRollChic, Dont under estimate Blue Valentine in this horses pedigree. whom also influenced this horses hip.

Blue Valentine is still to this day one of the most influential roping/barrel and all around ranch horse sires and grandsires, and a grandson of Joe Hancock himself. These horses are usually all built "tough". Broad, stocky body, large good bone and hooves, deep heart girth, and wide powerful hindquarters. They may not have the prettiest faces i've seen, but definitely not the ugliest either.

Downfall, they are thicker horses and really cant reach the high level of collection needed to be great at reining without forcing them into it and making it look unnatural. But they can get down and dirty and cut, rope, stop, and drag a steer like no other.

Definitely built to stop a steer!! :)

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:21 PM

Thanks Smokum- I wanted to discuss the Blue Valentine bloodlines, but didn't want to over do it.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:42 PM

My own horse goes back to Blue Valentine, I have done my fair share of research. :)
You'd be surprised how many with these bloodlines have carried their riders to the NFR

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 06:41 PM

smokum- Chip is now learning what a steer is. I think he'd be a pretty cool horse to work some cattle off of, if he can get over his "fear" of them. So far, he's been a pretty cool horse, if I do say so.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 02:52 PM

bump for any more reviews.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 10:27 PM

Personally I'm lovin' those big honkin' feet of his. I wish more quarter horses had them.

He's a nice looking horse. Not very constructive I know.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 09:04 AM

Turn him out with the cows for a few days. He'll learn to love 'em :)

Love, love LOVE the big bone and feet of a Hancock horse. (Quite a few get the big head, too....and that's OK!) Also love the way they bond to their people and "try" anything that's asked of them. Allbreed isn't working right now for me to look at the way he's bred specifically but...He is nicely balanced overall, looks like a good ranch horse should.



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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:04 AM

I am not a conformation expert, but I did think his front feet maybe need some work. IMHO his toes are a little long and his heels underrun. Both can be fixed, or maybe it is just the way he is standing. :o)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:30 PM

He's a nice stout boy in a great color :o) He carries a lot of natural muscle, especially through the forearm and hip, but lacks muscling of the gaskin. He appears to have a nice set of withers that tie into an "ok" back that isn't much shorter than his underline, that appears to lack musculature along the topline, giving a near 'weak backed' appearance. He has a nice angle to his shoulder, but his hip looks to be a little steep from croup to tail, however part of that could be due to how he's muscled. He has a nice straight front leg (when viewed from the side), that ties into a nicely sloped pastern that sits at a nice angle. He has nice large feet, however his toes are long and heels are underrun-He is packing a lot of flare. He toes out slightly on the left front, and more severely on the right-but even then its pretty slight. His hind leg has pasterns again that are adequate, he just lacks musculature that could enhance the overall appearance. He's got a well muscled hip, but could use some work that targets the muscles he's not building on his own. His neck is just a touch short, but ties in well at the withers and is well muscled. Some people may claim he ties in a little low at the chest-part of that is personal preference. He has a plain but pleasing head with expressive eyes and ears. His nose is nearing being roman with the nostrils being placed further down on the nose, however they appear large enough to supply the horse with air when needed during/after strenuous activity.

He's a cute boy! Best of luck with him!
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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:22 PM

He looks like an honest to goodness ranch horse. He is built! The only thing that I would complain about would be his head. Its not by any means ugly but it seems to be missing some refinement or something.
If this in anyway bothers you though, you can go ahead and drop him off in my pasture :happy0203: I would be hard pressed to pass him up at any sale. He has a sweet eye.
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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

Thanks Slide and Grace. The pictures taken were before my Ferrier was out to work on his feet. The amount of toe taken off was substantial. He is now more "correct" in his toe/heel ration, but to get him perfect will certainly take a lot more work. Chip is actually due for another trim here shortly. If the snow melts and I can get another conformation shot, I will post updated pictures.

As far as his head, yes, I agree it isn't the most refined head, but he does have a kind eye and I saw that right away. It definitely speaks to his personality as well. I call him my big cool dude.

From what I heard about this past, no one has done much of anything with him. I am curious to see how some work may influence his muscling, but I know the pictures donít show everything. He certainly has a lot more muscling than my previous mare that I sold.

Thanks again for your critiques.

In loving memory of Jaime Lynn Krausse-Campbell-she loved horses and her country. Lived for horses, died for all of us. God Bless the solider

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