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#1 *KELSEY*

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 02:11 AM

So my horse has a little problem of running to the barn everytime she has to pee. Even the second I untack her she goes straight to the barn to pee. She doesn't always poop in there, but she does quite a bit. And my sisters horse is starting to do it now when she never did before. Has anyone dealt with this problem and know how to fix it?

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 08:36 AM

Put a gate up or close the barn doors, they'll have to go sometime.


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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:29 AM

rotf.gif I WISH I could train them to stop that...and stop passing stinkies in my face when I am brushing tails or washing butts. duh.gif
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:32 AM

Don't feel you have an exclusive!

My mare is such a stall pig, and her gate is never closed, so she can go out to the turn out and relieve, but NOOOOOO!!!
That would be nice, and she could stay clean and smell good. THEN... my wife's gelding will walk out of his stall, ( next to hers of course),
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and then walk back into his.

So her dirt floored area is always smelly and wet.



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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:33 AM

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:45 AM

Both of our geldings will pee as soon as they get a chance in their stall. I've tried spraying them with a water gun, with the hose, changed the type of bedding being used, left no bedding at all in the spot they like to pee . . . and other than keeping the gate shut to keep them out of there, nothing works.

If we leave all the stall doors open for them to come and go as they please, they will all go into the mare's stall and do their chores and leave the other two stalls alone.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:08 AM

I wish I knew the answer to that, too. In the summer, it's the worst. I think because they spend so much time in the barn to escape the flies.

I will clean the barn everyday, and one or the other will wait till I finish, then go in there and poop! I've begun to just wait for it, then I get that pile, too. They poop and pee mostly in the one stall, though, nowhere else. At least that's the only stall that gets really bad.

Now that the flies are gone, there is MUCH less pooping going on in there. Now they poop behind the barn. I clean that up too, though, because I don't want it to build up there over the winter.

I broke them of their habit of pooping right by the fence that borders the yard, though. I had hubby grade it down pretty well, then I put a lot of lime (barn lime or ag lime) there. The grass grew, and now the horses don't poop there. Why? Because the grass tastes better, and they eat it now. They don't poop where the eatin' is good!

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:11 AM

Stall mats only. They don't like the splash created by peeing on straight rubber stall mats.

I put down diatimatious (sp?) earth under my stall mats, then left bare stall mats. I no longer have mucky nasty run ins.
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:53 AM

Those are good ideas. I just have wood palets in the barn. Maybe I could look into getting rubber mats. There so spendy though!
And Wild Rose, I wish I could plant grass in the barn so they wont pee or poop in there! :P
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 08:45 AM

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And Wild Rose, I wish I could plant grass in the barn so they wont pee or poop in there!


OH, me too! I thought of that when they quit pooping by the fence! rotf.gif

I have stall savers, same thing as stall skins, in my barn. I tried leaving the bedding off completely, thinking the splash factor would stop them from peeing in there. Nope, they still did.

The stall savers work pretty well. The urine drains right through. The shavings do get wet, but they don't soak in the pee and get all skinky. I have to pressure wash the stalls once a week, though, because sand and dirt clogs them up. It's a little bit of work to pressure wash once a week, but my stalls are SO much nicer now....even with the pooping in there.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 09:34 PM

None of my horses poop in the barn. They all learned in only two or three days that they don't get fed until the barn is clean.

When I got a new horse last year it only took two days for her to wise up to getting fed the instant I came to the barn or having to wait until I cleaned house.
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 12:03 AM

I only have one rebel in my barn.... and she is the same. She won't pee unless its in her stall. Otherwise all of mine have learned the same way as "Zaar" has trained.

I go through and feed the ones with clean stalls. the ones with dirty stalls get to stand tied while stalls are cleaned.

The only two that are currently messing their stalls are the rebel and my new mare. But my new mare is now going in one corner because she figured out i clean faster that way.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:33 AM

zaar and merlin, would you please explain how you trained that? I don't see how making the horse wait till the stall is cleaned teaches them not to poop in there. There is no way a horse would make that connection....Gee, if I don't poop in here, it doesn't need to be cleaned, and I don't have to wait for dinner!

I just don't see a horse making that connection, because the horse could very well have pooped in there long before dinner. Now, if he poops right at that moment that you were about to give him his feed, and then you didn't because he just then pooped, he might make some connection to "I pooped, and food went away".

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 04:39 PM

Wild Rose ... animals are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. True it might take longer for some horses to make the connection, but I would prefer to think those are the ones that are testing YOU.
My mustang mare, after the second day, was so upset about not getting fed immediatly that for about two weeks she pooped an inch outside the barn entryway. Even if she was out roaming the corral I watched her go over and poop right where I had to walk, but I just ignored that behavior, knowing how persnickity she is, and she got over it. Meanwhile she has never ever messed in the barn again.
The other horses, no problem.
All I did was just calmly clean the stalls, probley while shaking my head and talking to them "yes, now you know I'm crazy",befor feeding. And it worked for me. And it's not just a fluke, cause I've done it with every horse I've had on the place.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:21 AM

I also think that they are a lot smarter than we think too.
So maybe I should try not feeding them until the barn is all cleaned out and make them wait?

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (teampenninglady123 @ Oct 26 2010, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
rotf.gif I WISH I could train them to stop that...and stop passing stinkies in my face when I am brushing tails or washing butts. duh.gif



hahaha so true! I also hate it when your braiding there tails or brushing it and they fart right in your face!!
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:26 AM

QUOTE (zaar @ Oct 28 2010, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wild Rose ... animals are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. True it might take longer for some horses to make the connection, but I would prefer to think those are the ones that are testing YOU.
My mustang mare, after the second day, was so upset about not getting fed immediatly that for about two weeks she pooped an inch outside the barn entryway. Even if she was out roaming the corral I watched her go over and poop right where I had to walk, but I just ignored that behavior, knowing how persnickity she is, and she got over it. Meanwhile she has never ever messed in the barn again.
The other horses, no problem.
All I did was just calmly clean the stalls, probley while shaking my head and talking to them "yes, now you know I'm crazy",befor feeding. And it worked for me. And it's not just a fluke, cause I've done it with every horse I've had on the place.


That would be great if it was that easy. I just can't see that working, though. There must have been some other reason they stopped pooping in the stall.

You would think a horse would not poop where he eats. I mean they have their "roughs" and "lawns" in the pasture. Roughs are places where the grass isn't that good, so they poop there. Lawns are the good grazing spots where they eat, so the don't poop THERE. It doesn't seem to work that way in the stall, though.

I really think, with my horses, anyway, that they are "marking" their spots. When I clean the barn well, and put down new shavings, they can't WAIT to go in there and pee on it! I think they are claiming the spots as their own. Both of my horses poop mostly in the one stall. They leave other areas poop free. They pee in all places, though.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 11:25 AM

My mini only poops in one corner of his stall and will pee on top... Hes always ben a VERY clean llil guy...
Even in the pasture he goes way arround back where the pines are too poop and pee...

I had a paint gelding thta REFUSED to go inside even if i stalled him a day or 2 at a time hed hold it till i took him out side then hed go... confused0024.gif

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 12:06 PM

Wild Rose ... I have very good communication with my horses. If you are able to spend time with your horse other than just riding, you find they are able to learn just about anything. As for you stating "There must have been some other reason they stopped pooping in the stall" that is a bunch of balony, as thier feeding was only delayed about 10min. They are smart animals on a schedule they prefered not to have changed.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

we had a mare moved into my old barn, BO was pissy cause she was a messy stall mare.. we started to transport her pee and poo outside the barn, and then fed her inside her stall.. we did this for a month, after a while she started going where we put her piddle soaked saw dust.. it seems that they go in certain places once set, they dont like to break it, lot of it has to do with scenting.. Ya horses do it too.. we just experamented with putting outside for a while, it seems after a little over a month the BO was happy cause all her waste was outside her stall.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:43 AM

zaar, if you say that worked for you, then that's good enough for me. I have my doubts, but I haven't tried it, so who knows.

kitten kat, I think your idea has a lot of merit. I also think habit, and scent has a lot to do with where they poop.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:56 PM

I had to take my horses feed bucket out of her shed cause every morning I went in there, there'd be poop inside the bucket. Was disgusting. Had to wash the stupid thing all the time.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 05:21 AM

Don't stall them?? That'd be a fix for them to not go in the stalls.

Really though? Horses are animals that just happen to defecate, a LOT.

Say your horses are stalled for 8 hours at night. You mean to tell me that in 8 hours, you expect NOTHING from your horse in a stall? If my horse didn't defecate in 8 hours i'd be phoning the vet. If you ate constantly, as horses are made to do(grazers and all) you would have to use the bathroom constantly as well. It's not HEALTHY to prevent yourself, or your animals, from having bowel movements and urinating. You'd get constipated if you didn't poop, and horses do as well. I'm sure your familiar with the term, COLIC? Impaction colic, is the same as constipation. (Theoretically)

If your stall is open, then move their piles outside. They'll go in the same(roughly) area. Dump their manure where YOU want it. Do it repeatedly.

But expecting them to "hold it"? They're not children.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:14 AM

Zeusyboy, you are sure right on that! No one wants to make his horse hold it for 8 hours!

I'm pretty sure everyone here is talking about horses that can come and go from their stalls/barn.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 03:15 PM

Diffenately talking about horses that can come and go to their stalls to eat or just for shelter. smilie.gif
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 01:24 AM

Okay, now THAT makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarification. ashamed0002.gif crazy.gif
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 01:58 AM

Ha yeaah. Talking about just a little run-in barn:P
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 05:19 PM

Hmmmm zaar, interesting.....

Well....can't hurt to try it out right?? I am going to try this out with my ponies. They have just started poo'ing in thier run in shed the last couple months. I would LOVE a way to get them to go back outside to do their business. Soooooooo I guess I will see what happens and how it goes.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 09:00 PM

UtahCowgirl- good luck!

and the worst is when you have round bales, or they poop and pee IN the hay. And it's pretty much impossible to get out. And when springtime comes, there's sooo much muck to get out. It's thee worst thing ever.
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