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#1 sappy

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:35 PM

Everyone post your due dates and expected gender(or team green if you're waiting until the birth!) or if you're ttc, I'll add you to the list as we go. I'm on a lot and if you'd rather PM me, go for it! We definitely needed a new thread, and the old one hadn't been updated in quite a while. So everyone check in, tell us how awesome motherhood is!


Mommies To Be:
BabiGurl90 - March 5th Blue Team!
Sappy - March 25th, 2012 2011 Pink Team!
¤PaintJumper2oo4¤ - July 10th, 2012
JumpinIrish4ever - August 2012

Mamas TTC:
Goldiebabe - Surrogate mama to be! :yahoo:
horse_gal_jen


Graduates:
brlracr624 - Mason 11/10 :yahoo:
Hibiscus - Baby girl Dec 2011 :yahoo:
Goldentoes - Baby boy! Dec 2011 :yahoo:

I'll post a list of resources here, and keep in mind I am working on a more organized list of helpful topics. This post will always be a work in progress, and please feel free to pass on helpful links and info! The more we can help new moms and veteran moms, the better!

Breastfeeding resources:
kellymom.com
http://www.lalecheleague.org/
http://theleakyboob.com/2011/08/baby-explains-normal-newborn-behavior/


Bottle feeding:
need links!

Cloth diapering:
Why Cloth? http://itsybitsybums...p/new-cost.html
Debunking myths, and other help http://jilliansdrawers.com/newtocloth
http://realdiaperassociation.org/

Feel free to ask questions. we have several cloth users here!

Thrush:
http://drjaygordon.com/breastfeeding/thrush.html
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/thrush/thrush-resources.html


.. Still adding more. I badly need another cup of coffee this morning but cannot indulge. So sleepy.

Edited by sappy, 13 January 2012 - 10:18 AM.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:52 PM

Thanks for starting a new thread, Megan! Looks great!

Can you put me down on TTC? Not TTC for myself, but for a lovely couple I am hoping to be a surrogate for! We had our first embryo transfer on Aug. 25th and have our pregnancy test Thurs. Sept. 8!

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:13 PM

Thanks Sappy, this should help out a lot. Oh and our c-section is scheduled for the 10th of Nov.

Goldie, I think your test will be great as that is Kindra's B-day.

We had our 29 week appt today. Heard the heartbeat again I love that part. Kindra still cries every time my OB comes in, but only when he makes me lay down. She doesn't like it when he has me move my shirt so he can measure my big ole belly and listen to the baby. She gets over it quick though. We found out that DH won't get to cut the cord at all due to us having a c-section, scheduled or not. Kinda a bummer but DH is ok with that since he can still be there and all.

I also found out that we are gonna have a house full of people right after and at the hospital. I don't know if I like that but I need my parents for Kindra, my grandma is coming since she is in her 80's and may not have another chance to see this baby. My cousin and her husband are coming that weekend we are in the hospital and leaving around the time I get released. She wants to see the new baby and see my grandma. But it is gonna be so different from Kindra's birth. We had one friend there and then we had DH's mom here the day we got home for 3 days. She was GREAT and soooo helpful. I know my parents are gonna be great help with cooking and Kindra and such but it seems like a lot of people staying at our house when I get home from having a baby and major surgery. I stayed pretty much topless last time even with my MIL around as she BF too. But with my parents it is so different as they don't agree with that decision.

On other than pregnancy news, a good friend of ours gave me a pony saddle today. So of course we had to saddle JuneBug and let Kindra ride. This was JuneBug's first time in a saddle, but def not the first time Kindra has ridden. She rides about once a week. Before anyone has a conniption we don't have a helmet for her. I know I know bad mommy but we don't. But here are some pics as this is the only thread I share pics of my child on. So please no grief, here ya go.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:18 PM

I'm due October 16th, with a girl :) But with some complications, so I may/most likely will go into labor before that. Anyway, just about 34 weeks so only a few to go!! :jump:

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:38 PM

I just typed up the longest post ever for help, tips and tricks for motherhood, diapering, illnesses, rashes.. everything. And the interwebz ATE IT. I could cry. When I get more energy I'll retype it. :ashamed0002:
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:41 PM

Sappy, that is why about every 2 paragraphs I select all and copy. My laptop likes to eat posts too. I get so frustrated!
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:45 PM

Sappy, I am doing something similar for my friends and I am very nearly finished. I could try to PM or e-mail it to you when I am done.

I have a feeling it will contain similar information as I too cloth diaper and breastfeed :smilie:

I have to head into work tomorrow to TRY to get my classroom finished once and for all before Tuesday, but I am going to try to finish tomorrow. It is kind of long though..... (I tend to get carried away, lol :happy0203: )

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:28 AM

Well, I should know on the 10th if this month worked- but I don't think it did. I'm experiencing the same mood swings/hunger/slight cramps that I usually do the week before my period. I have pretty much decided it didn't work. Bummer!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:33 AM

I'll send you a big bucket of baby dust! :huggy: I swore I was getting my period this time. I had intense AF symptoms and put off testing until after my missed period because I seriously didn't believe I was pregnant. :crazy:
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:27 AM

So I went to the Dr today because I am having weird pains in my upper abdomen, l like right under my ribs and down below my bellybutton. I was worried because I don't really know what labor feels like at full term, I lost my daughter at 21 weeks last year so this is the furthest along I've been :) Anyway, turns out its most likely a combination of untreated heartburn, constipation, and that my abdominal muscles are separating and pulling apart :surrender: Well that explains a lot... Pregnancy symptom nobody ever told me about. They did draw some blood to make sure my gall bladder and liver are functioning well, just in case and they are perfectly normal.

I don't think I'll tell my husband about this one lol

On the up side, I FINALLY get to go see my husband and our new house, which we bought over 2 months ago and I haven't even been able to see it :(

I just miss my pups and horse.

and my husband, I guess I miss him too :P

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:37 PM

Well, hey guys!
Long time no post!

We're doing great here. Elliott is a bouncy preschooler now. He goes to daycare/preschool 3 days a week, one half day and two full days. He is WORN OUT!
Potty training is going great! He #2's in the underwear (yucko) but does great for peeing. Sometimes it's a battle to convince him to wear underwear; I think he is kind of lazy and he screams for the diaper. But when he's in underwear, he does pretty good.

We had a couple months where he was absolutely out of control. Spitting, saying disrespectful things, hitting, throwing, tantrums, etc. I broke down and bought a book called "1,2,3 Magic." And it's working great.
When he does a naughty behavior, I call out, "ONE" then two, then three. At three, it's an automatic 3minute time-out. It only took a few days for him to respect the concept - and now he stops his obnoxious behavior at 2, and I can "control" him just about anywhere. Home, restaurant, store, car, park.
Much happier mama!!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:16 PM

Chino- so going to have to try 123Magic on Jordan. OMG! How can one toddler cause so MUCH drama!

Sappy- put me down, please! Dec. 2nd Team Pink! =]

Going in on the 14th for my GD testing. Don't want to but I'm too big of a weeny to speak up and refuse a routine test.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 09:58 AM

It's nice to see lots of familiar faces checking in! These threads have been going forever it seems.. I remember playing while I was pregnant with Hunter. Good times, and it seems like yesterday.

Chino he has gotten so big! He's a big boy now.. gosh where does time go?

Hibiscus - GL on your test! I want to refuse my GD test too, but I am a weenie. I also don't want to lose my OB because of it. If I was a MW's patient, I probably would opt out. It's bad enough they stick us so often anyway. I mean, for real.. I have to get blood taken at almost every appt? what the? One thing that annoyed me is they want to test for all sorts of nastiness at the first appts. I understand why they do it, but it's still kind of insulting. I know I don't have aids or anything crazy that needs treatment or meds.. of course my word isn't good enough. And then, they want to test you AGAIN for aids towards the end of pregnancy. :questionicon: I will be refusing that one.. no doubt. I'm sick of lab work already.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:10 AM

Hmm, My OB does a urine test at each apt, the GD test, and the typical blood work at the beginning but that is it.

I only had blood drawn twice (early and after the drink). I didn't think it was that bad really. I wonder why they draw blood so often?

My Dr. is more of a "if you are feeling good and seem to be doing well we will just leave things be" kind of Dr. anyway. She really doesn't push a lot of the extra stuff and is kind of a minimalist unless there is a concern.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:16 PM

Sappy, I was told the Aids/HIV test is required by law to be done twice during pregnancy. Not sure why, but I was told it was required by law.

I wanted to pass on the GD test too, but this pregnancy I was feeling so dizzy and having what was feeling like sugar highs and lows. I did it at 25 weeks and my sugar was better than my dr's, lol.

I also only have blood drawn at my first appt, the GD test and I think once more later on. Kindra's pregnancy in the beginning I was in twice a week to check hormone levels, that sucked.

I picked up a new to us mattress for my grandma to sleep on while they are here and then to transition Kindra to once we will need the crib again. The guy I got it from is a fellow law enforcement guy that knows DH and his son refused to sleep on it since it was new. He wanted his old mattress on his new bed. Kids, huh. So I got a mattress that doesn't need a box spring for $20. My MIL has a frame for us so that is cheaper than the toddler bed we were looking at and it will last longer.

Oh and I think we have decided to move in the next couple years back to AZ. My parents just bought 4 acres with a home on it and are offering it to us to live in for the price of the taxes. It would be an hour and a half from them currently and if DH can get on with law enforcement out there we are def going. I'm 90% sure it is a good thing but I don't really want the stress of moving cross country with animals and kids.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:56 PM

Not a law in my area thank goodness. I believe we are allowed to opt out of any test or treatment, I'm just too big of a weeny to speak up and say "sorry, not going to do it", because I don't want to get flack for my choice. My first test from my other pregnancy came back at 90 at an hour from drinking the devil juice. Resting should be no more than 95. Think I'm definitely good. I will opt out of the 3 hour glucose intolerance test if they want to order it, though. I can barely get through the one hour. Also will not ***** my fingers every day. I have an insane fear of needles from when I was 2yo and had Reye's Syndrome. For 3 days I had to get my blood drawn every 10 minutes from any available vein. I think the intense stress caused by the needle sticks would outweigh any good from checking my sugar.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 02:09 PM

lol, i sure picked the right day to peak my head in again... on the day everyones talking about how much they dislike needles and blood draws.. pray your pregnancy and post partum don't develop an unknown blood disorder/issues..

after having Joe(EASY pregnancy and delivery)), i developed a DVT(blood clots) in almost my entire right leg and then it went to both lungs. no history family history and absolutely zero blood issues prior to that for me. i was healthy as a horse. and have tested negative for every clotting disorder and disease they have tests for. all the drs and specialists are scratching their heads, it doesnt make any sense to them either.. their thinking lupus, but nothing is quite matching up there either.

6 months of 2-3+ blood draws a WEEK trying to get my numbers and medications balanced out. we'd get it where it needed to be at, and then something would go sky high, or tank miserably for no reason and we were back to square one.. and whatever it was that caused the flareups of wonky numbers for no rhyme or reason descided to cooperate.. the plan was to be spayed so i wouldnt have to worry about the effects of what was going on with my blood affecting a baby.... well, we discovered an "oops!" (due on halloween). and were right back into the fun of the blood issues to a whole new level being pregnant. hubby is getting gelded after haying is over.. and im being spayed as soon as i can afterwards.

this time around has been a REAL pita. 2-3 times a week its labs and blood draws of anywhere from 3-14 vials of blood each time to run the different tests and monitor my BP for an hour+ each time (crazy BP cycles, highs and lows).. my normal OB appointments 1-2 times a week.. see the specialist 1-2 times a month.. and 4 shots a day, every day since i cant take coumadin being pregnant. add in a few ER visits when i could tell just by how i felt, there were some pretty major blood issues going on, and there were each time. yep.. its been real fun this time around.. :rolleye0014: :bang_head: on the plus side, i've been feeling pretty good lately.. knock on wood..

so, here i am almost 32 weeks pregnant during the summer, its hotter than hades 90-100*+ everyday and feeling like i know darn near everyone on every floor of three different hospitals on a first name basis.. :rolleye0014: tuesday i see the specialist from denver, and have another U/S, hopefully the little munchkin cooperates and we know if its a boy or girl.. chances are, it will be just as stubborn and uncooperative as it has been for all teh u/s's in the past.. has to follow in his/her big brothers footsteps i guess.. LOL!

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 09:53 PM

Holy crap Equi.. and here I thought i had it rough with the gazillion blood tests. When I was preggo with my youngest I had blood draws quite often, sometimes twice a week at the end due to pre-e looming it's ugly face. I remember having 11 or more vials taken and I felt like I was going to just pass out.

idk why they want to draw blood so often. There are so many tests they do during pregnancy.. I remember nearly every visit I had with Everett I had blood taken.. and finger sticks because I was anemic.. which bruise the heck out of me. I'll be declining that test this time, and start taking iron now.. instead of waiting to hear i am anemic and being told to take OTC meds. *grumble*

Oh and Brl I think law is pretty much by state.. here we can decline tests for HIV and other STDs.. but the doctors can also turn you away as a patient. I mean, they looked at me silly when I declined all the weird blood tests for CF and other things.. so I knew they'd probably say no if I declined the other blood draws. I am all for a CBC to be run.. and other tests.. but I know for a fact that I don't have diseases.

Hibiscus, I'll probably also decline the 3 hour test if they order it for me.. I'm needle phobic, but I don't have a valid reason why. :ashamed0002:
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 04:32 AM

so going to have to try 123Magic on Jordan. OMG! How can one toddler cause so MUCH drama!


I so need to do this....Michaela is absolutely out of control and going through another growth spurt on top of it. Cranky, defiant, mouthy, screaming child....such a pleasant creature!!

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 01:54 PM

I so need to do this....Michaela is absolutely out of control and going through another growth spurt on top of it. Cranky, defiant, mouthy, screaming child....such a pleasant creature!!


It's such an easy thing to do and it's amazing how easy it works.
AND - it's awesome being the mom who can control her kid at the playground! LOL.

His naughtiness still exists, and I can live with that, but atleast it's in moderate doses.

My SO wants marriage/babies (he's a bit older than I) and I tell him no - but I will live vicariously through you all!

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:24 PM

Barbara, your SO looks/sounds like a keeper lol! That's great that he loves kids. Are you wanting to get married eventually? And you might change your mind about more kids later. :winking: Elliott is so grown up now! So glad that the 1,2, 3 magic method is working with him! I may have to consider that for Connor.. He is turning into a trouble maker when we go places (trying to run off, throwing things, etc.).

Thanks for adding me to the TTC list, sappy! It's nice to see an updated list and have people checking in.

equilibrium, I did not know you were pregnant again! Sorry you have had a rough pregnancy. At least it is almost over (yay!)

brlracr, sounds like a good option for you to move to AZ in the next couple years. Hope everything works out!!

As for me.. Have insomnia issues lately. I have been super tired but unable to get good sleep. Worried how it will affect me at work this week.. At least it is only a 4-day work week! In-laws visited this weekend and just went home to MN a couple hours ago. They totally spoiled all of us! It's nice to get spoiled every now and then. :happy0203: I'm ready to get my beta over with on Thursday so I know for sure whether the transfer worked or not.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 11:37 AM

Wow, have a new behavior problem with Jordan. She has started biting the first thing she can reach on a person when she gets in trouble. Problem is, it's usually hubby or my CROTCH. She left a bruise on hubby's leg the other day. Normally, I would be worried about some kind of abuse, but that's simply not possible with her. Any ideas to stop the biting?

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 11:50 AM

Wow, have a new behavior problem with Jordan. She has started biting the first thing she can reach on a person when she gets in trouble. Problem is, it's usually hubby or my CROTCH. She left a bruise on hubby's leg the other day. Normally, I would be worried about some kind of abuse, but that's simply not possible with her. Any ideas to stop the biting?



I don't actually have a child of my own, so you can take my advice with a grain of salt if you want. :winking:

When my brother was little and biting my mom finally had to bite him back and then he completely stopped. It was almost as if he didn't realize what it felt like to be bit until my mom bit him! lol

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:35 PM

It sounds like she doesn't know what to do with her frustration. I was like that as a kid and still now from time to time. I'm not sure what to tell you to help her, but I hope it isn't a huge on going thing.

I do know that when I was a kid we had a biter at the sitters. My sitter said the same thing as Amazona, just bite him back. After several bites I grabbed his arm and chomped! And you know what he didn't bite me again. But it doesn't work with all kids because we can bite Kindra back and she laughs. Goofy, but she isn't doing it out of frustration she is playing. We just say ow and no and luckily she stops. So far that is.
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:53 PM

Due Dec. 20 here, with a boy.

Who is currently trampolining or something. I swear he doesn't kick, just bounces.
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#26 chino is neato007

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:54 PM

Hib, brl is totally right. She doesn't know what to do with herself when she is mad. Teach her to blow really hard, or to clap her hands as hard as she can, whatever you want.
OR, next time she bites, screech as loud as you can and freak her out a little bit. Or you can bite back.
Or you can do, "you bite, you sit."
With Elliott, it was, "you spit, you sit" and sometimes "you hit, you sit."

You could also get a children's book about biting. I know there are several easy to read, "entertaining" books that will teach her.

Good luck! Those little teeth are sharp!!

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:13 PM

I'd say bite her back. Tell her it hurts when you bite & how would you like it if Mommy bit you. Then bite her & ask how she feels. You'll probably get an answer back of some sort. Then mention how you don't appreciate being bit.

When AJ was at the hair pulling stage after being nice about it I gave his hair a little tug. He only pulled my hair a couple times after that then realized it wasn't fun. Never, pulled hair again.

Another thing I have done is when he just stands & screams at me I'll sometimes scream back. Boy does he stop & look surprised. It is then I say I don't appreciate being screamed at & thank you for stopping. I have always been in the habbit of say thankyou to AJ when he stops doing something he shouldn't.

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#28 brlracr624

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:33 PM

Ok guys, my little girl is 2 today. Where did the time go?

We are only having an ice cream cake here with mom and dad tonight. She has a party this Sat up at her grandparents in OH. We have a few gifts for her to open but nothing major.

Where did that teeny tiny baby go, now all I have is a rambuctious toddler that is turning very fast into a daddy's girl and leaving mommy in the dust.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:48 PM

Just wanted to add one quick thing about biting..


I guess when my boyfriend was little and in daycare he used to bite the other kids. As a result, when everyone got to go outside the "teacher" would put him on a child leash thing! :rotf: These days people would probably FREAK OUT if that happened, but every time I picture my bf as a little kid on a leash I laugh.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 07:15 PM

Amazona- I see more and more people nowadays buying those leash things. So it wouldn't surprise people.
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