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#1 Gingerpie98

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:29 PM

Because I show 4-H after a horse is six it has to be in a curb bit. I'm not sure which bit I really want want to switch her two. I know that I don't want to do a tom-thumb though.

Some info on her training: she was started as a two year old in halter and leadrope, then let sit till her four year old year where she was started in twisted double broken o-ring combination gag bit, by a fairly hands only rider with no body skill. When I got her in July of her four year old year I switched her to a D-ring snaffle with copper rollers since all I was doing was trail riding and working on getting her used to body riding instead of hand riding. She is doing fine in the snaffle.

So I was wondering what you guys thought was the best curb bit to switch her to.

Edited by Gingerpie98, 07 March 2012 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:47 PM

A Billy Allen 3 piece jointed bit with a 4" to 6" swivel shank is a good transition bit. It doesn't have to be a solid bit yet, correct?

Something like this maybe: Billy Allen

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:04 PM

Thanks Andi, I like the fact that it is 3 piece, her english bit is double broken as well.

No it doesn't have to be a solid mouth piece, just has to have a curb.

I have to look for a smaller size though, her mouth is 4 1/4" so I use a 4 1/2" bit on her.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

We moved our horses from a snaffle to this bit:

AT Silver Argentine Dog Bone Western Bit5in

It's less than $40 and a nice transition bit to the curb. We found it at thehorse.com.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:30 PM

I just switched my personal mare into a shank bit today. She turned 6 in Feb, and I used to use a Myler snaffle bit with a copper roller.. I changed her into a Myler Western HBT Shank Bit with a low port. I just rode her in it for the first time today and it was wonderful. She was naturally carrying her head low and was really tuned in to the bit. I swear by these bits and I will not ever ride with anything else. You can look at a pretty good selection of Myler bits at http://www.horsesadd...yler-bits1.html
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This is the bit I just used today. It is a sweet iron and has copper inlay. It doesn't break like a tom thumb snaffle or a traditional snaffle bit. It really is a great product!!!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:59 PM

That is the same concept as a Billy Allen. They are a great transition bit from snaffle to a shank. And a good bit to get them ready for a solid bit, and if a person is talented enough, a Spade. I doubt I'll ever have the feel for a Spade but I sure love seeing a good buckaroo riding a Spade horse! It's a thing of beauty!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

This is from my October 2011 Horse&Rider. Bob Avila.

http://www.valleyvet...CFYcUKgodHjooNA

This mouthpiece is similar to the basic smoothmouth, colt-starting snaffle. Transition stage: transition from a snaffle to a leverage bit. :smilie:
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

I really like the bits made by Dave Robarts. They work on the pinchless principal but are half the price of Mylar and are made in America. The have all levels from snaffles to transition to ports to spoons.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

That's the hard thing about changing bits - you could spend a fortune investing in bits until you find the right one. Every horse is different, and although people can recommend bits that work for THEM, it may not mean squat to your horse. I swear, I need to start my business I have been mulling over - a bit rental program where you can rent a bit for 2 weeks to try it before you buy it. My trainer and I have tossed around this idea all year, mainly because she laughed at the massive collection of English bits I have collected in the past 20+ years. I have a bucket of expensive bits, and invariably I end up with my plain old french ring snaffle LOL!

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

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If you could send them to Montana maybe I would think about it!!! =)

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 01:38 PM

Andi,
I had noticed that the bit you posted was very similar to the bit I had just started using. Do you like the Billy Allen bits? I personally use the Myler bits, But if the Billy Allen bits are just as good and cheaper maybe I would look into them. I just am in love with the Myler bits.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 05:43 PM

That's the hard thing about changing bits - you could spend a fortune investing in bits until you find the right one. Every horse is different, and although people can recommend bits that work for THEM, it may not mean squat to your horse. I swear, I need to start my business I have been mulling over - a bit rental program where you can rent a bit for 2 weeks to try it before you buy it. My trainer and I have tossed around this idea all year, mainly because she laughed at the massive collection of English bits I have collected in the past 20+ years. I have a bucket of expensive bits, and invariably I end up with my plain old french ring snaffle LOL!

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You'd have to send them up to IL tho.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

Grace, check the rating of the bob Avila correction bit. It is graded as a `c`, for a finished horse, thus I would not use it as abit to move from the snaffle to

Level A Horse Level 1 Level B Horse Level 2 Level C Horse Level 2-3

level A Beginning training or has little training
level B Established basic training
level C Finished and obeys Complex skills Advanced skills
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That bit ad is slightly confusing, but if you click on the bit classification link, you will see that a correction bit is not a bit to transition a horse from a snaffle

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:46 PM

MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
You'd have to send them up to IL tho.


Bits would be easy to ship! Too bad my box of a hundred bits are all English!
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

That's the hard thing about changing bits - you could spend a fortune investing in bits until you find the right one. Every horse is different, and although people can recommend bits that work for THEM, it may not mean squat to your horse. I swear, I need to start my business I have been mulling over - a bit rental program where you can rent a bit for 2 weeks to try it before you buy it. My trainer and I have tossed around this idea all year, mainly because she laughed at the massive collection of English bits I have collected in the past 20+ years. I have a bucket of expensive bits, and invariably I end up with my plain old french ring snaffle LOL!

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I had talked about having something like that with my friend too! I have a quite a few english bits and a ton of western ones, my biggest problem is that I dont know if i could part with any of them.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:28 PM

Yo spring. We should discuss this bit collection you speak of. In total need of a new bit. lol! :winking:

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:40 PM

With a mouth that size she is going to fall in the pony/mini bits and shanked bits (other than a tom thumb) in a 4 1/2" mouth are very hard to find. Myler offers a couple or custom bit where you choose the parts, Dave Robarts offers a couple of adjustable bits and some small muzzle bits, Reinsman has a #660 solid bar grazing bit, Amazon has the Kelly Silver Star Copper Mouth Breaking Bit.
There are lots of English Pelham bits in pony sizes some with copper mouths. Dover Saddlery has a nice selection.

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