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  1. Garlic, No Worms Coming Out...

    Thanks everyone... Update - ran more fecals on each goat and the pony yesterday, $130 & the vet cant believe it, they even checked twice! Not a single worm, shed or egg in any of the animals. Vet said I must be giving magic water LOL. I've had fecals done at three different labs over the summer, all the same results, vets always seem surprised lol... I even paid extra for an egg count but with no eggs that was a waste. She kept asking if I was certain it was a worm and I am certain it was. We are worming her this go around just incase and then in the spring checking for cushings again as I was informed cushings can lower immunity causing her to be more prone to worm type problems. Puzzling isn't it? I work very hard on keeping my animals EXTEMELY clean. Both goat stalls and the pony stall cleaned thoroughly twice daily, all feed is fed off the ground and she has a large grazing area (muzzled) in which she is only in a few hours daily so the worms probably don't get much opportunity to cycle out there. Im in my last months of pregnancy and still make sure my animals environments are spotless even when im exhausted. I focus on cleanliness in order to keep such things like parasites down and other ailments. I'm a bit OCD about it lol. Even vacuuming the cobwebs down. I've never fed her garlic before, it was just something I thought id let her try as I was giving it to the goats that day. I'm pretty sure that's why we saw the worm though, so im glad I chanced it or I probably wouldn't have known anything was going on with her especially with my fecals consistently showing 0 worms. But yes you guys are correct, if fed regularly it is bad for equines and can lead to anemia.
  2. Garlic, No Worms Coming Out...

    Sorry the title should say Garlic, now* worms coming out. We don't do a regular deworming program at my farm, we have 1 pony and 4 goats, all which do not share pastures. All are fed off the ground and are kept quite cleanly with stalls cleaned twice daily. Because we don't do a reg worming program I do bring fecals in for examination regularly, probably 3 times in the summer and twice in the winter. For about 2 years now all of our animals have been clear according to the fecal exams. However we have had a problem with our pony in the past (about 3 years ago), she had a bout with tape worms and ended up colicing. We brought her to a clinic and they were able to get her back on her feet. It was after this that we began doing regular fecal exams to make sure everyone's been healthy. Mum and I were just discussing the other day how it was due time to bring in more fecals to check them before winter begins, infact we were supposed to do it Monday we just didn't get the opportunity. Well anywho, the other day I had a goat who seemed to be a bit under the weather, so I offered them some garlic cloves. While I was offering them garlic cloves, my pony seemed curious about the treats I was giving out so I gave her a clove too. She had never had one before but she ate it without hesitation. Tonight, two days later, I noticed while she was eating her grain she was mildly kicking with her back legs and holding her tail up...she continued eating and didn't appear technically "colicky" just irritated...I figured id take a peak at what may have been bother her, I lifted up he tail and there is this big ugly round white worm hanging out! I called the vet in a mild panic and explained to her what I was seeing. She mentioned it was most likely a round worm, but they don't usually effect older horses (18)...however there are conditions that can effect their immunity, such as cushings et. She is a laminitic pony and was tested years ago = boarder line IR (insulin resistant), we have not tested since but if she did have cushings or something similar it would explain why she would have round worms when its fairly rare in the older horses. I inspected the manure, but nothing, didn't see a single worm. I did not worm her tonight as the vet suggested bringing a fecal in prior to worming. She was munching on her hay and seemed okay, the part of the worm I could see was drying up and the vet said it would most likely come out when she passed her next stool. So tomorrow when we bring the fecal in we will hopefully have an idea of exactly what worm it is even though the vet is fairly certain based on description and we can follow up with worming protocol at that time. With all of that said...I'm thinking the little garlic clove killed this worm! I'm sure there is more in there, but I was wondering if this could be a real possibility? Thoughts? Also, the latest fecal we did was about 3 months ago, would an adult round worm get this large in that short of time or do you think the worm was missed during the exam? Im not sure of the length yet as its still in there, but I can tell its a good size worm, the part sticking out was at least 2 inches.
  3. Runny Gas Caused By Soaked Hay Or Bute?

    hmm strange, ill have to keep an eye on her. Blondy- runny gas, isn't that odd? She has never been one to have much gas at all, maybe heard her pass gas 5 times outs of the 10 years ive had her. She has been on soaked hay for about a week and bute for two days and suddenly had runny gas...like passing gas, but brown liquid comes out. Normal well hydrated poops though...not cow patty like or like the runs or anything, so im quite puzzled. Shes had soaked hay in the past too, but never had any issues. Im wondering if shes having a worm issue, ill take a fecal in tomorrow and have it checked just to be on the safe side, we don't do a worming program here as she is the only pony on the farm and isn't out to graze as are normal horses (laminitic, very limited turnout with grazing muzzle) so I usually go without worming and have fecals done on her twice yearly. she is all UTD on shots, farrier and dental. No temp. Ozland- we did get some new hay about a month ago, yes richer which is why im soaking for her feets sake but I haven't seen any funky weeds yet. I'll keep a closer eye on it. I'm also wondering, weve had some crazy weather in Maine, fall like this past month, then 90's then fall like again, then we are going back up to 90 and humid, its all over the place, I would assume this would effect the sugars in the grass? Perhaps her limited grazing has caused a bit of tummy upset if the grasses are higher in sugars right now :-/ Im also going to pull her off the bute, reading some scary info - one of the potentially deadly side effects is colitis, almost incurable runs that will lead to death. I'll have to discuss with the vet another method of pain killers. Thank you both for the feedback! Greatly appreciated.
  4. Runny Gas Caused By Soaked Hay Or Bute?

    Anyone ever had a horse who developed runny gas when eating soaked hay or while on bute?
  5. I have a good question. I just got a horse march 2nd, she came with her health cert and coggins. Weve had a family emergency and I am sending her back where she came from April 2nd. Her health cert will be exactly 30 days that day and her coggins will still be good....will hc papers still be legal since it will still be on the 30th day? How often do they check for this anyways?
  6. Help Managing Horse On Sand...

    Clever idea! Thank you for sharing
  7. Help Managing Horse On Sand...

    Oh my, thats terrible. I do feed with a hay net on mats but she likes to nibble the grasses that grow up in the sand and around the fence line where there is loose sand. I guess years of doing that in the summer months have added up. Just cant believe it. Shes shown no signs of colic yet and shes about 15, but the vets sound concerned so its deffinitely something I would like to help her with. I've taken the manure to my personal vet numorous times but they've never caught the sand or tape worms that had almost killed her so I switched over to a vet that uses different testing tecniques and theyve been great, and they are the first ones to mention the sand concern, thankfully, I would never had known if they hadnt. Now i'll have to think of way to keep her from continuously adding sand to her intestine...matting the entire paddock may help, but wouldnt make sense financially, I suppose adding a few mats a month eventually we would get there. Oh horses, the joys... Thank you for your feedback :)
  8. Help Managing Horse On Sand...

    My pony has been on sand for years due to her laminitis...I imagine most horses do injest quite a bit of sand over the course of their life just from grazing but I sent her manure in for a worm testing, she doesnt have any worms and is all clean and good in that department but the vet reported she has mild to moderate sand and should be put on a sand clear type regimen...Does sand clear really work? I just look at the little grain pellets and have a hard time seeing how that could clear out sand? Is there another method I should try that is more accurate? Any thoughts on dealing with sand?
  9. I stumbled upon an article about moon blindness earlier...to tell you the truth I forgot my pony had it til I read it! She has a small episode each year in one eye for the past few years, we usually treat it right away and we go on with life. I have had a blind POA in the past and he was perfectly fine with life so her having moon blindness doesnt really weigh on my mind as im kind of, how do you say "use to it" and her behavior isnt effected by the episodes. Asside from pain during the time of the episode, she manages the rest of her life very well. However, I read the article and I dont think I was aware that it "could" someday effect both eyes. I didn't realize this. So far we have had no indication that it would effect the other clear eye, what are the chances that the other eye will actually be effected in time? Is it possible that it will only effect the one eye? Is it "for sure" a recurrent event with horses that have had it in the past? I would love for it to just go away but based on what im reading that doesnt sound likely. Most articles I see on the net are repetative...any further help from those with experience with moon blindness would be great help! Also...what do you do to help your horse cope and keep them comfortable both during the episode and inbetween episodes? Do you keep a flymask on them in the winter when the snow is bright? Thanks everyone!
  10. Puffy Above Eye Sockets

    just to recap, I know most ponies get cresty with fatty patches, the vets astonished my little pony had minor IR issues and laminitis, there were no physical signs, just the lameness during the episodes and the fatty patches over the eyes and shes never been over weight or shown any other physical abnormalities :/.. Again, I doubt it would be a horse issue as much so but still something worth checking which it sounds like you are. There are diet changes that can help if it turns out to be IR related including soaking hay et. If turns out to be IR fortunately you are catching in advance! That will be a big help :)
  11. Considering Breeding This Lady..& Laminitis Q's

    Shes been completely sound for the past 2 years...her initial bout into founder was when a horse sitter watch our horses for 2 weeks and thought it would be a good idea to give all the horses bunches of apples at dinner, we returned to a pony who was in immense pain...very scary since we had never delt with anything like that before. There has been mention of her being IR but we just watch her diet, cut out the high sugars, pen her in a dirt pen with an hour turn out on grass with a muzzle. In the fall and spring she isnt allowed grass at all and in the winter she is fed mostly good quality hays and a handful of IR/laminitic equine safe grain. If we notice any heat or slight pain we soak the hay...however this winter we arent having to soak the hay, im assuming this batch of hay is tolerable for her since we started with the old stuff and let the knew stuff sit for a couple of months before starting in. So its the typical high sugar laminitis x with a possible insilin resistance which seems to be managed based on diet. We have not had an xray in 8 years as she hasnt been in enough pain for long periods to call for one. When she did have the xray I dont remember the outcome well, but I believe there was slight rotation but it was hardly noticable, she wore foam pads for a couple of months. Before the past 2 years of soundness she would get minor laminitic spells that would last maybe 2 weeks, we would alter the diet, soak the hay and she would come out of it. There appears to be no long term problems based on her outside appearance and soundness, however I dont know whats going on in the hoof. Last thing id ever want to do is harm her, so Id love to know more about laminitis, pregnancy and foaling. If there is a great risk of furthering her lamitis id rather not go down that road but if its a minor risk or easily managed than I feel it may be worth it.
  12. This is Nico, a 15-17 year old 10-11 hand pony. She is not registered but her personality is AMAZING! She is one of a kind, gentle as can be. In my limited experience I feel that she has ideal confirmation and attitude. This pony has never kicked, bitten, or reared. Asside from laminitic episodes she is sound with sturdy sure footed hooves. She does have a cateract in one eye but it does not effect her, im not sure if this can be a genetic problem? Ive had her since she was 5 years old. She was green broke to ride and drive. Her teeth are perfect. Without training, simply through trust over the years weve had her she will do anything I ask, walk under and over tarps, sheets and blankets on the clothes line, streams, puddles, jumps, clips, bathes, stand on cross ties for hours without moving a muscle, amazing for dentist, farrier, vet, deworming. Gentle with children and other animals. Not a mean bone in her body. With all this said, over the years we've debated breeding her. The only reason we havent is due to having too many riding horses (not enough time for a baby) and we've worried about pregnancy and birth affecting her laminitis... First off, could those of you with experience breeding laminitic horses/ponies weigh in on this?? Is it safe? Are there healthy ways to breed laminitic horses? Does it increase laminitic episodes or death? Are there way we can ensure a healthy pregnancy and delivery for both mom and baby through a special diet and fitness? Is it just a bad idea all together? Any experience/tips/sites would be helpful. Secondly, thinking about the ponies confirmation, attitude & temperment, would she be a suitable candidate? I am aware of the current flow of unwanted foals in the world but this baby would not be bred with the idea of resale. This would be a personal pet and life long commitment. If we decide to breed, we will want to breed within the next 2 years before her age becomes more of a risk. Although she is not registered I do believe our pony was well bred for confirmation, personality and A+ temperment. We would look for the same in the stud. Thoughts?
  13. What Is My Pony?

    Safety first! Thanks for the breed input, so far ive had a lot of shetland responses ...Ive always heard bad things too, but shes such a dream, not a mean bone in her body.
  14. Puffy Above Eye Sockets

    My pony who has IR gets the puffyness above her eyes when eating high sugar foods ...its hard to imagine full grown horses having the same issues that are common for the wee ones...it always baffles me but perhaps the hay is high in sugars...just my experience with puffy eyes. My ponies are also nice and squishy to the touch and not painful. They are fatty deposits. If it is an IR/cushings issues it will be good to know to prevent laminitic issues in the future. Good luck!
  15. How Heavy Is Too Heavy To Ride A Pony?

    I HAD THIS SAME QUESTION LOL! Glad you asked it.