Nikki Livermore

  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Nikki Livermore

  1. I thought I'd post this here because it pertains to our long-eared friends and I'm guessing it might be a good FYI sort of thing. Dr. Juliet Getty wrote this article on "fat" for our health section and this was a question posed to her after publishing it... I didn't know about Hyperlipemia and I think our donkey has it for sure.

    Question: I have a question about a comment made that Mules, Ponies, Mini's and Donkeys should not receive a high fat diet. Could you tell me why it would be bad for them and does this mean that they should not get something like the Nutra Flax either? Is fat also bad for IR/PPID horses/mules/etc?

    Answer: If you have my book, Feed Your Horse Like A Horse, take a look at pages 226-227 for a discussion on Hyperlipemia. This disorder can affect minis, ponies, mules, and donkeys because they are genetically predisposed toward developing insulin resistance (metabolic syndrome). PPID (Cushing's) also results in insulin resistance, secondarily. Adding fat to the diet can make them become overweight, which increases insulin resistance. And insulin resistance makes it difficult for the tissues to get the glucose they need, and will therefore pump more triglycerides into the bloodstream, leading to this dangerous disorder known as hyperlipemia.

    In addition, their genetics favor a low fat diet. This doesn't mean that you can't add any fat, such as a small amount of Nutra Flax (flaxseed meal). Some omega 3s are beneficial in lowering circulating insulin levels, but be very conservative in feeding it, depending on the weight status of your animal.

    Find out about Dr. Getty and read more here >>

  2. Some websites don't allow you to copy things. If you are copying from an outside source I can't help you. It's either an issue with the site or your browser/device.

    I don't know why GCC is not the same as the other forums here on HC. They all "act" the same. I guess it depends on where you are pulling the content from?

  3. FYI - Nutrena's site says: "All Nutrena horse feeds contain soy in varying amounts."

    I pulled a bit of older info from Dr. Juliet Getty's site

    She regularly contributes some great articles to and I don't think she will mind me mentioning this:

    Many feeds contain soybean hulls, which are the fibrous portion of the soybean, but do not contain actual soybean meal. These include:

    Blue Seal Feeds

    Platform feeds

    Seminole Feeds

    Triple Crown Feeds

    Many companies, such as Nutrena, Purina, Poulin, and Pennfield do not list their ingredients on line, so if you have these feeds in your local feed store, you can examine the feed tag.

    I'm not sure why you're wanting to avoid soy, since soy is a highly nutritious legume, and as such, it complements other protein sources to produce a high quality protein. Soybeans in these feeds are heat processed to destroy the trypsin inhibitor found in raw soybeans.

    Dr. Getty

    I'm going to email her since we just talked this week and see if she will contribute to this thread a little. She always stresses the importance of the Omega 3s and I think that my horses have always done better with that supplemented as well.

  4. Here's the numbers on each:

    Guaranteed Analysis ? EquiPride

    Crude Protein, Min. 14.00%

    NPN Max (AS) 0.55%

    Crude Fat, Min. 5.50%

    Crude Fiber, Max. 5.50%

    ADF Fiber, Max 8.50%

    Calcium (Ca), Min. 1.00%

    Calcium (Ca), Max. 1.50%

    Phosphorus (P), Min. 1.25%

    Salt (NaCl), Min. 7.50%

    Salt (NaCl), Max. 9.00%

    Magnesium (Mg), Min. 1.50%

    Potassium (K), Min. 1.10%

    Sulfur (S), Min. 0.25%

    Fluorine, Max 0.8 ppm

    Copper (Cu), Min. 500 ppm

    Selenium (Se), Min. 5 ppm

    Zinc (Zn), Min 1,000 ppm

    Iron (Fe), Min. 350 ppm

    Manganese (Mn), Min. 750 ppm

    Iodine (I), Min. 8 ppm

    Cobalt (Co), Min. 4 ppm

    Biotin, Min 18 mg/lb

    Omega 3 fatty acid, Min. 5,500 ppm

    Vitamin A, Min 100,000 IU/lb

    Vitamin D, Min 20,000 IU/lb

    Vitamin E, Min 350 IU/lb

    Guaranteed Analysis - McCauley's? M10 Balancer?

    (Contains beet pulp, flaxseed and rice bran)

    Crude Protein, minimum -- 10.0%

    Crude Fat, minimum -- 5.0%

    Crude Fiber, maximum -- 14.0%

    Calcium, minimum -- 2.8%

    Calcium, maximum -- 3.3%

    Phosphorus, minimum -- 1.4%

    Salt, minimum -- 1.0%

    Salt, maximum -- 1.5%

    Copper, minimum -- 180 ppm

    Selenium, minimum -- 2.0 ppm

    Zinc, minimum -- 500 ppm

    Vitamin A, minimum -- 20,000 IU/lb

    Vitamin D, minimum -- 4,000 IU/lb

    Vitamin E, minimum -- 500 IU/lb

    Vitamin K

    Vitamin B1 (Thiamin)

    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)

    Vitamin B3 (Niacin)

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)


    Folic Acid

    d-Pantothenic Acid

    Vitamin B12






    The Protein and Fiber are a bit different, as are the vitamins. The Equipride has Omega 3 which might mean a difference for your mare.

    Equipride is a "top dress" while the McCauley's is a pelleted balancer. Is that what you are going for?

  5. Sorry we've been up and down so much. My email has been down and we had to unexpectedly change servers and it didn't go as well as planned. :ashamed0002: We should be back up fine now but you might see some additional changes as we upgrade some software stuff. Thanks for your patience! :smileywavey:

  6. Nutritional Management of Metabolic Diseases

    Kentucky Equine Research (KER) has made available a free guide to Nutritional Management of Metabolic Diseases. This guide was launched at the 2011 American Association of Equine Practitioner?s meeting and because of the high demand, copies ran out the first day.

    Veterinarians and horse owners may log in or register'> at KER?s online library and download a free copy of the booklet.

    The booklet was assembled by the nutritionists and veterinarians at KER. It includes practical feeding and management recommendations for the following diseases:

    -- Pituitary pars intermedia dysfunction (PPID or Cushing?s syndrome)

    -- Equine metabolic syndrome

    -- Exertional rhabdomyolysis

    -- Polysaccharide storage myopathy (PSSM)

    -- Malignant hyperthermia (MH)

    -- Hyperkalemic periodic paralysis (HYPP)

    Kentucky Equine Research is an international equine nutrition, research, and consultation company serving both the horse owner and the feed industry. For more information visit or visit our online library of nutrition and health articles at

  7. ALSO! If I do buy this, I plan on heading down to a saddle fitter in the area in a week or two to have him thoroughly check it out, flock it, and give me any more insight on it all.

    Flocking = wool and Collegiate saddles actually have foam in them so they are not able to be changed in any way. Wool flocked saddles are generally more expensive. I'd definitely recommend sitting in the saddle on the horse - even if it's without stirrups just to see how it fits you and him/her. They all fit different once a rider's weight is in them. Be sure to stick 2-3 fingers under the pommel as you ride to make sure the withers are not being pinched.

    Let us know how it goes!

  8. This was the clip my guy had when we lived "up nort' der heh" :winking:

    He lived outside with a run-in shed and blanket (and hood) "as necessary" for the weather. It was very easy maintenance for me and I don't think he suffered any. We brought them in for a few weeks when we could not keep the water from freezing and wind chills were -30 or so.


    Now he's body clipped year-round since we moved down South. 2-3 times in winter and one mid-summer clip to keep him cooler. He's a really hairy dude! :surrender:

  9. Thank you for all that information, Nikki!

    I will stay away from Silver Fox, then, haha. Has anyone heard of Lancer saddles?

    No problem :happy0203: Happy to help.

    Run like the wind from Lancer and Regency. :sick:

    You are much better off finding an older, used, "used to be expensive" saddle at a tack shop than buying a new poorly made one. There's plenty of them out there ... Pessoa, HDR, Stubben, Barnsby, Collegiate, Courbette, Crosby, Passier.