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  1. Protective Of Feed

    Consider hot wire at the top of the fence....she's not likely to continue trying to reach over.
  2. What To Do With A 2Yr Old- Keep Her Interested

    Check out John Lyon's book "Bringing Up Baby".....lots of exercises in there mostly aimed for weanling/yearlings but certainly applicable to older horses as well.....geared toward foundation work for later stuff and does a great job of putting a solid foundation without holes in it. Haul her around to local shows and either don't compete or put her in things like halter and showmanship. Pony her out with other horses for exposure to all kinds of terrain and, livestock, trains, hot air balloons etc.
  3. Bosals

    The bosal is a training tool. Traditionally, in the Spanish vaquero type training of a bridle horse, the youngster was started either in a snaffle bit (teaching direct reining and following their nose and lateral flexion) or a bosal....both are pretty kind to the mouth if the snaffle is correctly used. Those started in a snaffle were then put into a bosal which teaches more vertical flexion (it hangs more comfortably for the horse if the horse has his head nearly vertical) and neck reining is taught as well....the weight of the bosal and the mecate and the roughness of the mecate were signals that the horse learned to rein from so that pressure on the mouth was minimal if any. Once the horse was doing well in the bosal it was progressed to a finer and finer bosal and then to the "two rein". The Two Rein is a bosal plus the curb/spade bit that is the sign of a fully trained bridle horse. In this set up the bosal/mecate are used first to cue the horse and then followed immediately with the reins of the spade bit...gradually shifting from the bosal as primary cue to the reins of the spade as the primary cue. The horses are also cued throughout by weight and leg cues to the point that the cues from either the bosal or the bit are eventually almost invisible and secondary. Finally the horse has a bosalita (fine, narrow bosal) along with the bridle as the last step before becoming fully "in the bridle". The horse learns in this progression to carry himself in a frame due to the weight and comfort of the bosal and then the spade bit and how they hang on his face/in his mouth. The reins for the spade bit are usually heavy, made of intricately braided rawhide and that weight is enough to cue the horse....the bit hardly ever even moves in his mouth but hangs in a position that reminds him to keep himself framed up. The process of going from snaffle to bosal to two rein to spade usually takes roughly 5 years of near full time work....which is why you seldom see a fully trained bridle horse any more. They are so sensitive and tuned in that they nearly read your mind from your weight and other subtle cues (turn your head to watch a cow and the horse turns from just the shift of seat and slight change of leg pressure for instance that is NORMAL movement for the rider...not even a concious "cue")....a superb riding experience and one you won't forget if you get the chance.
  4. How Much To Charge For Training And Breaking?

    When I was doing mobile training (going to the homes of the owners and working with both horse and owner) here I charged $35/lesson plus milage at $.35/mile for any location more than 5 miles from my home...and charged round trip.....that was when I started doing it. When I last did it the cost was up to $45/lesson with milage remaining the same. The reasoning was that it took me usually somewhere around 2 hours.....had to work with the horse and get it understanding the lesson for the day/week and then with the owner to get them able to do homework for the week and do it correctly and understand why they were doing what was being done, what to do with potential problems etc. Of course there was also a lot of other info passed along as well as many of these owners were first time horse owners (often with newly adopted BLM horses due to the low cost of obtaining these) and so had little to no basic horse care knowledge, safety knowledge etc and lots of "I heard......." stuff that just wasn't even close to accurate. On my first visit there was a written three page evaluation of the horse done with the owner participating and then we sat down and scored the horse's performance (at whatever level he was) and worked up a "lesson plan" for the horse. Additional evals were done at specific intervals to see where the horse and owner were progressing and where more work needed to be done.
  5. Is Latin A *dead* Language?

    And it is the base for a sign in my house that reads "INC"......elaborately done in counted cross-stitch.....the full statement is "illegitimi non carborundum".....translates to "don't let the bast**ds get you down"....something of an inspirational statement for me.....not an exact quote but it works for me.
  6. Is Latin A *dead* Language?

    Latin is a blast! Took two years in HS to meet foreign language requirement (there are several words in that sentence with a Latin base)....instructor was a gal that came here from Germany after WWII and insisted on conversational Latin in the classroom. We did "Julius Caesar" in Latin (and bedsheets for togas) much to the sheer boredom of the parents that were attending. Latin is the base for much of the English language and for the Romance languages and makes them much easier to understand even at just a glance and without an education in those languages. English is such a hodgepodge that having knowledge of any part of the base of it is helpful. And it is all over the place in medicine, biology, most sciences, the law. But learning conversational Latin with a heavy German accent...that was fun.
  7. Food Stamps For Pet Owners?

    I'm confused by the discussion.....the topic appears to be "food stamps for pet owners" which I took to be a discussion of whether pet owners could qualify for food stamps since some of their income is obviously going toward their pet and if they didn't have the pet then perhaps they would be in a position to not need food stamps (pet food/care money could go toward owner's own care/food and other expenses). But somewhere it morphed into using food stamps for pet food...or did I miss something? I think that pets are lifelines for many senior and disabled folks...not just service dogs but pets of any kind. For many a pet is the only or nearly the only social contact they may have and there are numerous studies showing the anti-depressant effects, especially on the elderly, of having a pet. Many elderly are on very low social security payments and may have no other income at all and qualify for food stamps based upon that income level. If forced to get rid of their pet would the reduction in food stamp money they are eligible for truly offset the increases in medical care for depression that could occur? I've seen many a senior say that the only reason they get up and get dressed is because "Foofoo" needs to go for a walk or to the vet or is out of food so there's a trip to the store needed. Is there abuse in the food stamp program? Of course there is. There's abuse in every single program out there as that seems to be the nature of human cheat if possible.
  8. Getting Hay Into Second Story Hayloft

    Depending on size (measurement) and wt of bales there are gadgets that look like the old ice tongs used to move big blocks of ice.....hook one hook in each end of the bale, have rope tied to the center where they join....block and tackle/pulley system attached to that...when the rope is pulled it pulls the hooks toward each other ("closes" the angle between them) and lifts the person to pull using block and tackle (reduces the amount of pull needed to move the wt so physically easier than just straight rope and pulley) and one to unhook the tong hooks when the bale reaches the second floor area....a rope attached to the top of the tongs (same location as the pull rope) will allow the second floor person to swing the bale into location desired so no dragging/pulling (or minimal at least) to get the bale where you want it. Work early morning if possible to avoid heat....should get 200 bales done in a couple hours at most. Similar system used to load "small" bales (125 lbs/three strands wire or twine) onto hay trucks back before there were loaders/squeezes......know of one fellow and his son who could load 1500 bales a day every day for weeks at a time.
  9. Abby.....the Cow Horse

    I think that giving a horse a job to do is mentally important for them.....repetitious arena work is fine for teaching movements correctly but putting them outside with work in front of them wakes them right up. Reined cowhorse is a hoot.....fencework scares the snot out of me (but fascinates too...kind of like bull riding!)....saw Teddy Robinson end up with a cow in his lap at the NRCHA Snaffle Bit futurity one year....cow did NOT want to turn on the fence and tried to jump horse and rider....takes a gutsy horse and rider to get through that!
  10. Is It Wrong To Be Forced To Work Holidays?

    For almost 30 years (more than that if you count working time while in school) I worked as an RN......mostly ICU and ER but also other areas of care. Hospitals and most care facilities are open 24/7 so have to be staffed those hours. Clinics and offices not so much...they take weekends and holidays off most often. For about 11 of those years I never had either a weekend or a holiday (well, an occasional holiday if it fell on my regularly scheduled days off but there wasn't a change in the schedule to give it to me). After leaving nursing I worked for a couple years in the funeral home/cemetery business....death does NOT take a holiday or a weekend so again, the hours came with the job. More recently I worked a bit over 4 years doing a newspaper delivery route....every single night, no weekends, no holidays, no sick days and no vacation night, no matter what the weather. My current job also is a 7 day a week job, self-employed contractor working on hours scheduled as needed by the company....mostly nights and am working my 9th night out of the last 11 tonight...will have 36 hours off and work on Sunday. Looking at the calendar I'll be working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve and New Years Day. It is NOT a problem unless you make it one.....someone has to work certain jobs on holidays.....if that's your job then suck it up and work is only somewhere between 8 and 12 hours (depending on the job....some are longer...firefighters for instance) so you'll get part of the day off anyway. Many jobs do NOT pay holiday pay so count the extra bucks as a major bonus if you do work it and do get paid extra.
  11. Cch (Colored Cow Horse) Thread Just For You!

    But it was OK for the sheriffs office to take that sick horse, load him on a trailer and haul him to the sales yard where he was kept for an additional 4-5 days after their own vet said he needed immediate euthanization (which was what they offered when they came onto the property..."help you get him put down", "we have resources to help out owners in a bind"....and which I requested, agreed with and expected when they said they were getting the vet out)....until sale day when there were crowds of people on the sales yard property? At least at my place he was getting bute and omeprezole for pain and possible ulcers.
  12. Cch (Colored Cow Horse) Thread Just For You!

    The ill horse was not down, was seen by sheriffs deputy July 1 and on several followups and that deputy testified that he saw nothing that appeared to be neglectful. Vet (one large animal vet clinic in this town) refused to put the horse down when called in early August and having spent most of my reserve money on moving, getting pump and pressure tank for well so we had water and I didn't have to haul 1000 gallons a day and on going to see my sister to say goodbye before she died, going to funeral and then to help with follow up there...I didn't have the funds immediately available. Yes, there were slipper feet...on three of six yearlings. They didn't come home from winter pasture until just before we had to move and were wormy, unhandled, hadn't been trimmed by the person who had them all winter. First concern was getting animals safely moved and then getting them wormed and gaining....the three with long feet were the ones who had photosensitive reactions (photos of legs were posted by rescue claiming this was fungus or injuries) following worming with generic ivermectin gel....legs swelled, oozed serous fluid, peeled, cracked, split, bled. The choice was made to allow the legs to heal some before attempting to pick them up and trim, meanwhile working to halter break the foals and get them to stand being that done. Those without photosensitive reactions were trimmed and in fact sheriffs photos show two sets of legs in one with sunburned legs/long feet and one with colored legs and trimmed feet. The mare with the one long hind foot and a partly trimmed front foot was on occasion dangerously explosive if tied.....would stand if held but there is nothing solid on the new place to tie her to and the last time she was tied (when the one front and one hind were done and second front partly done) she blew up, knocked me on the ground and stepped on me....awaiting help to hold her to complete the job. Sorry if the decisions I made to get us somewhere to live, to get water running on the place, to haul water daily until that was done, to visit my sister before her death, to go to her funeral, to help her husband deal with the things needed afterward, to assist in paying for those costs, to wait for legs to heal before handling, to halter break and teach to stand before trying to do feet, to get local help in doing this for both the three foals and one mare doesn't meet with everyone's approval.
  13. Cch (Colored Cow Horse) Thread Just For You!

    Glad to know that "innocent until PROVEN guilty" is doing so well in some circles. How someone almost 3000 miles away can know so much about what is happening or has happened when the folks living within a mile or so do not....just astonishes me. I do not have time to post blow by blow on each and every board of which I am a member....and certainly would not post anything for the elucidation of the blond with multiple accounts over time and who seems to live in some fantasy world where her opinion counts for anything. I do not have to convince anyone on the internet or prove a single thing to discussion forums.....the only people who need to know and whose opinion will count will be a jury if and when this gets to a trial. There are lots of things not published and lots of things being found out about this entire situation that stink to high heaven and owners of livestock and pets should be watching closely....the things done here can happen to anyone anywhere and at anytime if this grab is successful. FYI.....several photos added to ranch album taken within less than a week after horses were seized. More (taken with longer lens since cameras/videos not allowed in sales yard area by management) coming hopefully soon. If you can find a horse in a BCS of 1 or think these have an average BCS of would be agreeing with the vet (with whom I had a billing beef earlier this spring and who refused to come put the older stallion down without full payment in hand when he was called the first week of August).
  14. Unwanted Horses/horse Slaughter

    Regarding breeders and overproduction....haven't we had this discussion a dozen or so times? Breeders have cut back seriously....AQHA has 100,000 fewer mares being bred each year.....that's 100,000 fewer foals from just one breed. APHA reports a 76% drop in mares bred/foals registered. All the other major breeds report similar drops in numbers. Horse magazines are reporting growing shortages in well bred young stock for those who wish to compete their animals, especially in age restricted levels of competition. Breeders are, in many cases, going completely out of business and valued bloodlines being lost. In other cases they are supporting non-productive herds of mares in the hopes that those lines won't be lost and that there will be a growing market for well bred young stock....but supporting non-producing mares is very expensive. In addition, the market has changed somewhat with buyers no longer looking at taking weanlings and raising them for a couple of years.....they now look for the long yearlings or two year olds which is why some breeders do have foals from several years still on their inventory. This means higher costs for the breeder in the long run and due to this more are cutting to breeding only one or two of their top mares if they breed at all. Check with trainers...they are crying for horses to start. Farriers and vets, feed stores and tack shops are all showing less in the way of sales.
  15. Unwanted Horses/horse Slaughter

    The withdrawal times for drugs ARE known.....there has been research in other countries but the USDA/FDA has ruled that they only accept research done here so they claim that the research hasn't been done...and it hasn' The half life of bute for instance is about 7 hours (the time it takes for half of a dose to be metabolized). In 14 hours there would be about 1/4 of the dose left in the horse's body (the half life is why doses of meds have to be repeated....they DON'T stay in the body forever...they are metabolized and excreted and no longer active/effective or even present) 21 hours it would be 1/8 of the original dose and so on. If the original dose was a gram (1000 mg)and the horse weighed 1000 lbs that would be 1 mg per pound at peak absorption....or down to .125 mg/lb in less than 24 hours. The EU is requesting a 3-6 month holding period for clearance of meds. I would suspect that given the half life of most drugs this would reduce any residual to infinitesimal amounts if they could even be measured at all. BTW....most of the horses I know of among my friends and myself....have never had bute, are now being wormed about twice a year and if treated for infections, usually receive SMZ (same thing as Bactrim/Septra for humans) or PCN (penicillin)....and the clearance times for those are pretty short.