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  1. Wow I remembered the password to my Horsecity account!

  2. Wow I remembered the password to my Horsecity account!

  3. Parelli didn't get bucked off. He flat fell off.
  4. White Spots Showing Up On Coat

    My Smart Little Lena mare is getting some of the weirdest white spots all over her body. I just took her winter blanket off two days ago and found the spots are multiplying. She is a daughter of Little Lena's Legend and has Doc O'Lena, peppy San Badger, Doc N Pep, Docs Amberjack and a few more on her papers. I don't know if one of these studs throws white spotting? I know with the Smart Chic Olena's they get a white ring on the tailhead. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. They obviously don't hurt anything but this is a very well bred little mare that now looks like an Appy! I would upload a pic but can't seem to figure out how to do that. The attachment isn't finding the file and I don't know the URL.
  5. FarmMom- How in the world is Prince doing? I would love to see pics of him.
  6. Hitching Horse Hair?

    I have a great book right now called Braiding with Horsehair written by Diane Gadway and Richard Schneider. It has some hitching and alot of braiding. There are a number of good books out there on how to hitch horsehair. I have perused many of them but it looks too darn complicated for me. I am sure if you google hitching horsehair you can come across a bunch of them.
  7. Guinness' Training Log

    You stated that your horse isn't leg yielding in your first post. If your horse doesn't understand the concept of leg yielding then you need to break it down into simpler steps. Start with disengaging his hindquarters either on the ground or on his back until he is consistantly doing it from both sides. Then start asking him to give his shoulders from both directions. If he's rearing then your using too much hand and not enough leg. Horse training is nothing more then pressure and release and repetition. However you have to be consistant in how you ask and how you release. My guess is that your not using enough leg or not using it correctly. You said he doesn't like the bit. Has he had his teeth floated? If he has then he likely doesn't understand the basics. He needs to be bitted correctly. Make sure you are using a quality, evenly made bit and place it on a setting that is a little lower then the corner of his mouth. This way he has to pick it up in his mouth. Tie him to the D Ring on the left side of your saddle. Watch him and when he begins giving to that pressure and following his nose around untie and change sides. Once his is consistantly doing this on the ground, you can begin lateral flexion from the saddle. Making sure he is consistantly giving to the direct rein pressure and following it around with his nose. . You said he is throwing his head when you back him up. Well you don't even have lateral flexion so why try vertical flexion. Go back to the basics and put a control panel on your horse first.
  8. Mccall Wade Saddle

    Yes Mcalls hold their value. I sold my Lady Pendleton made by McCall a few years ago for $2k and it was well used. If it's sound and operable $1800 is a good price.
  9. 3 Yr Old Loping/updated

    Cheri all I can say is EXACTLY!!
  10. 4 Year Old Colt Too Late To Break?

    I prefer starting them older because they tend to be more mentally prepared for the work. I have had some 2 year olds come in that could handle it and some 4 year olds that were still immature. However in general 3,4,5 is a great time to start a colt.
  11. Certified Trainers...

    CHA is a great program. I certified years ago when I was giving lessons. It's great for riding instructors because it gives you a nice discount on your insurance. Certifying as a trainer is a waste of time. Your best bet as a trainer is to ride under someone with a name. Julie Goodnight is actively involved with CHA. Not sure if she is still the acting president or not. She's a great hand and has helped develop a method the ensure that instructor's are teaching at the appropriate levels and not beyond their capabilities. When I certified there were a number of women in the class that thought they were better horseman then they actually were. They tested appropriately and were qualified to teach walk/trot or w/t/c but not advanced instruction which they had yet to gain a grasp of.
  12. Shortening And Lengthening Your Reins

    Hey girlfriend! Great to see you on here. Love the video. You two crack me up!!
  13. Gosh I have been gone for awhile and everyone is still hashing over the same stuff. LOL Cheri- I still agree with you 100% [Not Worthy] With the market the way it is, I got out of training for awhile. Might be for good. Sucked it up and got a real job. I will start my own colts from now on and NOT for the public. I am completely and totally over it and it's gotten EVEN worse out there. Now not only are there a surplus of $10 horses out there but everyone is pinching pennies and can't afford to feed them let alone train them. So now they want to barter you from a good 45-60 day training program to a week or two and then barter for pay. They aren't going to pay for lessons or additional training to have it done right. Everyone is trying to do it themselves. At least the hospitals are seeing an increase in revenue. Starting colts and working with problem horses is not something learned in a video. It's something learned through years of experience working with many different horses and using trial and error to figure out what works. A good trainer is constantly changing their program and making it better. I am always finding a new way to do something or adding another tool to my bag that may come in handy at some point. It takes so much time and repetition with LOTS of horses to understand FEEL. And on a further note..................Will someone PLEASE remove Ryan Gingrich from RFDtv. He's driving me INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  14. Whorls +temperment & Trainability

    I will write more about the subject when I have time. I am working so much and can't spend alot of time writing at work anymore. I have too many reports to write. Ahhh the life of a cop. Your more secretary than law enforcement officer. When I have time I will respond to the horse behavior stuff.
  15. Whorls +temperment & Trainability

    I've posted on this topic quite a few times. Someone told me about this back in the mid 80s and I thought it was hogwash. I have since always kept it in the back of my mind everytime I handle a different horse. Since that time hundreds of horses have come and gone through my hands. I have spoken to Richard Shrake, Cleve Wells, Brian Neubert and a number of competetive reining trainers and colt starters about this. ALOT of people believe that there is in fact something to this. It is NOT a substitute for good training. However there are correlations between facial characteristics and temperment. There are certain things you will find when looking at a horse that can give you positive indicators that the horse could make a great kids/lesson type horse. There are also certain indicators that can indicate a more troubled horse that is far flightier and reactive. Remember there is a reason they wrote the song the "Strawberry Roan". He had big roman nose, pig eyes and little pin ears that touched at the tip. Those are all signs that we see on our modern day bucking horses. Same with whorls. Certain whorls are found on the "get into everything" cuious horses. Certain whorls are found on our most trustworthy mounts. I have had a number of double whorled horses come in. More often than not they are a little bit harder to get going for one reason or another. It doesn't mean they are a bad horse. More often than not I have to tailor things a little different in their training program. Those few that are NOT different tend to be very competetive and give you their ALL. Most often side by side doubles. When the doubles are one over the other they are a little more knot headed. The body swirls on the body/neck are showing more and more signs of stiffness to one side over the other. I haven't quite figured that one out yet but I have seen some strange body whorls and I am taking notes along the way to draw my own conclusion. I just want to reiterate. Whorls are not an excuse for crappy training. Whorls can help give you a better sense of where your horse is coming from so that you can tailor your program better to suit your horses needs.