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I've decided to breed Baskette again. Her colt Wolfie (Requiem WSA for those who remember him from 2010's foal watch thread) is a strapping 2 year old now. I've been watching a particular stallion since he was a youngster and he's now acheived 2 National Championships--1 in halter, 1 in performance and is utterly stamping foals in areas that Baskette particularly needs improvement. I've decided to "blog" the process here for anyone who may be interested. Seems like there's a lot of questions about how the process works, so what better a way. So follow me along this journey!!

Without further ado:

Shaks Baskette:

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To be bred to National Champion KM Bugatti

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So our first "blog" so to speak.

March 14, 2012: Breeding contract and deposit sent to stallion owner, handling fee sent to stallion farm, credit card on file with the reproduction clinic for collection & shipping fees. Now we wait. Washington springs are miserably muddy times so I personally will be waiting to breed until late April, early May so I don't have a newborn out in the awful rain & mud. Those of you who may remember Wolfie's foal watch will recall this mare went 3 days short of a full year on HIS gestation, so we'll see what happens. From here, the plan will be to start monitoring her cycles, uterine culture & cytology so we're ready. Stay tuned....

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WOW!

To KM Buggati!

Very nice stallion and very impressive breeding past.

My Mare is a maiden, and at 10 yrs, would perhaps be a problem for her, so won't breed her, although she has good conformation and excellent disposition. I hope you all the best, and really look forward to watching the foal develop and become a star!

My girl;

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at 5 yrs, she was still dapple, but is now almost white, with some flea bitten.

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To Bugatti!!! :drool::thud: :thud: :thud: I am officially stalking this...

I love Wolfie, where's some updated pics of him? :happy0203:

Here ya go. He's 22 months old and I just weight taped him at 880# and 14.3hh last week. Pictures are from December....

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With his new best buddy Tiger

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Yes, the snow--from one overnight snow fall--was really that deep. Poor Tiger was pretty much buried.

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You can just see his personality in his face. It oozes out of the pics. I bet he's a fun horse to own.

HA....Mr. Personality indeed. He was playing chicken with the killdeer in the pasture last night. You've seen his stuffed animal antics, haven't you???

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NOTHING

looks as sexy as an Arab flagging that tail with the haughty attitude and then the "teddy bear" disposition and cuddle!

Also when they prance, it almost looks like Tempies with air! Love that extension and look.

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HA....Mr. Personality indeed. He was playing chicken with the killdeer in the pasture last night. You've seen his stuffed animal antics, haven't you???

Oh yes I have!! they are :rotf:

He will be a hoot to ride when he gets older. Can we say "arab teleport trick" at the grass blowing just to mess with his rider!! :rotf:

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Well, I guess the only update I can give is that the weather SUCKS here. Cold, windy, freezing rain & snow. Will NOT be planning a breeding anytime soon if this keeps up! Actually, we're just watching for Baskette to come into heat. Then we'll do a uterine culture & cytology.

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Wolfie is sure a fine looking boy!! How's the filly doing? Do you have pics of her as well? Baskette and Bugatti will have an awesome foal.

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How's the filly doing? Do you have pics of her as well?

As requested....From October however. For those who don't remember, I was GIVEN this filly because she wasn't "good enough" as a weanling. Sired by a National Champion, out of a National Top 10 mare, with a 1/2 sibling who is a Reserve National Champion. I posted these pictures on Facebook and the farm manager where I got her from said, "Crap....we should've kept her..."

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and HER personality: Yes, that is snow all over her head. I have one picture where she is completely buried....

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Blog update for Saturday: Looks like Baskette may be in heat. I don't have a teaser stallion available and I REALLY don't want her son doing that duty. Tail flagged, lots of swishing, stop & pee, stop & pee some more....Was planning on ultrasounding her tonight and doing the culture if she's in, but ran out of time and daylight tonight. Will catch her first thing in the morning.

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Sunday March 25: ultrasound performed. Left ovary: multiple 30mm follicles. Right: mult. Small follicles. Uterine tone fair, cervix softening. Still looks like transitional ovaries, but we'll track how this cycle goes. Uterine culture & cytology samples collected; will read results tomorrow evening.

Please, if there are any questions as we go, feel free to add to this thread!

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Thanks so much for letting us come along for the journey. This will be very educational for me, and for many of us, who look at the cute little baby pictures and get foal envy without knowing just how much work goes into a planned pregnancy and a hopefully healthy foal and mare at the end.

Tracy

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Monday March 26, evening: Uterine culture at 36 hours is negative for bacterial growth. Will do a final check tomorrow, as well as look at the cytology slides under the microscope. Will probably re-ultrasound her over the weekend to make sure she ovulated, so we can start tracking cycles from here. Right now, my plan would be to let her come into her next heat naturally, go through that and then short-cycle her off that heat. That should put us breeding--if she reads the book--the first week in May, which is right where I want it.

Of course, this blog experience is going to be a little skewed simply because I AM a vet and I can bring the ultrasound home at any hour of the day or night. Makes scheduling a little easier...

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"Short cycling" shortens the interval BETWEEN heat cycles. The typical mare cycles roughly every 21 days. 5 days or so in heat, 16ish days out of heat. Hormonally, the follicle ovulates at the end of the estrus cycle, the "left over" ovarian structures become the progesterone-secreting corpus luteum (CL). Its progesterone that keeps the mare OUT of heat. About 2 weeks after ovulation, the CL has a "choice" so to speak. 1) if there is a pregnancy that signals to the mare "HEY!! I"M HERE!!!", the CL is retained and maintained to support the pregnancy until around 6 months gestation when other hormones take over the driving role. 2) If there is NO pregnancy, the CL begins to break down, progesterone levels zero out and the mare returns to a normal heat cycle.

By short cycling, we administer Prostaglandin (Either Lutalyse or Estrumate) which prematurely breaks down the CL. The CL disappears, progesterone drops, the mare returns to heat in a more controlled and shortened interval. When doing cooled, shipped semen, this is of benefit because we can coordinate when the mare is going to come back into heat, so the stallion can be collected, the semen shipped and have it inseminated just prior to ovulation. Inevitably if you DON'T use some degree of hormonal manipulation, you end up with a mare that will ovulate on a Monday, when a Friday collection for a Saturday delivery is all you can get. If short cycling is timed appropriately, you can typically guess that the mare will ovulate about a week after the injection.

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Cytology: From the Greek: Cyte- meaning "cell" and -ology meaning "study of". Basically means to take a look at the cell population under a microscope. For a uterine cytology, an extra swab is collected and then rolled out on a glass slide. The slide dries, is stained and then evaluated under the microscope to determine what is REALLY going on. Uterine cultures have the biggest drawback that 1. Just because you DON'T get bacterial growth, doesn't mean it isn't there. 2. Just because you DO get bacterial growth, doesn't mean its from the uterus and 3. Uterine cultures will not indicate fungal infections. By interpreting the information from both the culture AND the cytology, you get a better indication of what's really going on. If you have bacterial growth on the culture but no inflammatory cells on the culture, its likely a contaminant on the culture. If you get inflammatory cells on the cytology, but a negative culture, further diagnostics need to be done, whether its a repeat culture, fungal evaulation (mainly through cytology) or biopsy. The current trend, especially for hard-to-settle mares is low-volume cytology, where a small amount of sterile saline is administered into the uterus, allowed to sit in contact, and then collected back. The fluid will then suspend all the debris & cells, the fluid is centrifuged and concentrated and then the gunk left behind is evaluated. Its a truer picture of what's going on throughout the uterus.

In this case, I did just a standard culture & cytology, both of which were negative. So we just wait for the time to be right and we're good to go!!

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Well, looks like its going to be a long breeding season...I just rechecked Baskette to see if she had in fact been in heat. It does not appear that she was. Tonight, there were follicles ALL over the place on both ovaries with no clear "dominant" follicle and no obvious corpus luteum. She appears to have either a uterine cyst or a touch of fluid (likely from the culture process). To me, she still looks transitional and not actively cycling. I'll probably bring a different ultrasound machine home this weekend and recheck. I've been using a cordless machine and I don't care for the image I get on it. We'll see....

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