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How Do You Feel About Ai?

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While I'm not planning on breeding anytime soon, I have been studying bloodlines in my morgans and look forward to having a foal once we get our feet on the ground in a new home. It's more of a hobby at this point, looking at stallions and watching videos.

My question is... how do you feel about AI? I know people have a lot of success with it and I've used it myself on dogs, but I had nothing but pain and frustration with the horses.

I had a mare that I wanted to breed. I picked a stud with excellent confirmation and bloodlines. He complimented her to a T. He was the hightest point-earning horse in the registry at the time as well. I had a pretty penny wrapped up in this. The vet was out and we did ultrasounds to make sure that she was ovulating and the whole 9 yards. I had 4 or 5 shipments done and ended up trying a different mare and STILL never got a pregnancy. Close to $3000 down the drain and nothing to show for it. Of course the breeder pointed the finger at everyone else but her stud. Said it was the vet's fault. They do check the semen when it is collected, but a lot of good that did. Mare had a healthy follicle, stud supposedly had a good collection. What gives?

So. My question is how successful have you been with AI? Of course the use of AI can open a lot of doors as to what studs I could have access to, but I'm still so heartbroken and angry about such a big waste of money. Thoughts?

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oh yikes, that's scary!

I'm looking into AI for the first time ever.. my family has bred horses since before I was born, but it has always been using natural pasture breeding.

AI is an excellent option for my mare because I am being picky about the stud - although she is a grade mare, I don't want to cross her up with just any stud from the neighborhood. So, I'm looking at stallions from down south (well over 3000 kilometers away)

.... but that said, I had been wondering what happens if she doesn't take the first time. Fees just keep racking up I guess? Did you use frozen or chilled semen?

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So much depends on how things are handled on both ends. The first time I tried breeding my mare, it took 5 inseminations over 2 seasons to get her bred. But I'll admit that *I* got pregnant in the midst of all of that, so my thought were not exactly on her. It took post-insemination lavage in order to get her to catch. Now this second time I bred her, it was as easy as it gets. Tracked her cycle, ordered semen, inseminated, lavaged, ovulation by the next morning and pregnant at a day 15 check. So it can go really easy or really hard. Versus sending my mare across the country to breed to the stallion I wanted, I'd spend the money to keep her at home and ship the "boys".

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Where the uterus is flushed with sterile fluid. Some mares, especially older mares, will get a significant post-insemination inflammation from the semen extender and the seminal plasma (liquid portion of the semen) that can be enough to prevent them from getting pregnant. In some cases they will even retain or pool fluid within the uterus. By lavaging, you're limiting contact time and diluting the effect essentially. Obviously, there is a time frame in which its done safely to prevent washing the sperm out.

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I AIed my first mare this year, and It went very smoothly, I knew when she was going to cycle (had a baby by her side), ordered the semen, and took her to the vet. I dropped her off one day, they inseminated the next two, and i picked her up the 4th day. Did a ultrasound at 15 days and she was bred. The vet i used did 5 mares the same week that mine was there and all 5 where bred on the first shipment. NOW, I prefer live cover just because of the extra cost of AI. But I will use it again to cross my mare to stallions that are farther away from me :)

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I used AI for the first time this year and my mare took on the first try. However I did haul her to a breeding specialist. They watched her cycle, teased her, ultrasounded, ordered the "boys", & reultrasounded her. It was worth the money to have someone else do all the work and saved me a ton in the long run. AI can be such a touchy process it's sometimes better left to the professionals.

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not all stallions semen ships the same way. some stallions produce much more gel then others which could cause problems with conception rates, some stallions morphology is lower or sperm counts are lower, some stallions may need to have the semen spun down to make the concentration higher per shipment. and some stallions just do not ship well...start off good, but over 12 to 24 hours as cooled semen the morphology circles the drain.

Sometimes it is the mare with clearance problems, hormonal problems or breeding conformation problems or even age.

But having a well qualified equine reproduction vet is key......worth the money you pay them.

I have AIed over 75 mares over the years and all but 4 took on the first insemination....the other 4 took on the second.

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I have AIed over 75 mares over the years and all but 4 took on the first insemination....the other 4 took on the second.

Well... look at your stud.. he is a real STUD! :happy0203:

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Well... look at your stud.. he is a real STUD! :happy0203:

Thanks Eskielvr.....he is a stud and knows it LOL

The 75 mares I have AIed were over the course of 30 years...many different studs...3 have been from my boy Jasper due this next year 2013....having a very good equine repro vet is key, a shot, a few Ultrasounds for the right follicle another shot and insemmination then lavage and wait for the 15 day check.....a good reproductive vet is worth his/her weight in gold!

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My question is this... how do you go about finding an equine reproductive vet? Mine has done it and actually they had 4 mares that week being bred. Of course mine was the only one that didn't take. :angry:

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